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[-] Photon1c@lemmy.world 101 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I don’t know why this obvious disinformation has a 95% upvote ratio, but it’s a specific fork made by a guy who presumably sells (mainly) to criminals and the police having found a backdoor into that fork. Has nothing to do with any smear campaign against the entire OS.

Check your facts people!

[-] LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

My thoughts exactly. There's no real article behind that ad.nl link. Then there's this loosely related link to the GOS mastodon post. And then there's the broad claim in the title, which, unless OP can provide proper evidence, is entirely made-up bullshit. I use downvotes very sparingly here on Lemmy, but this disinformation piece deserves all the red it gets.

[-] MidnightMarauder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago

Ad.nl is also a shit source anyway. Tabloid fearmongering.

[-] LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

It sure did look like that from the layout, but I thought it wise to hold back judgement on the source, given that I only had Firefox' auto-translation, which can be very rough.

[-] Photon1c@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Let me just put it this way: the guys in the GrapheneOS thread over on tweakers.nl spent exactly ~~four~~ three comments on it, including one laughing at how bad AD is, after which they proceeded to resume their discussion about their preferred banking app.

[-] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 18 hours ago

Yes, but it should be noted that the disinformation campaign is originating from the government and confusing users to believe all GrapheneOS is bad and being targeted. Agree that the title of the post is misleading, but it's probably at least in part due to the governmental misinformation.

[-] Photon1c@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Where is the government saying that in regard to the raids on these specific pixel phonea?

[-] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

They're implying that all GrapheneOS is bad and then saying they're raiding some people with GrapheneOS phones. How many people understand what GrapheneOS is much less what a fork of it is and how to differentiate the two. It's designed to be confusing as is most propaganda.

[-] Photon1c@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

But that is my question: are they really implying that? And if you say so, where can I read that. I’m not making a comment saying

Check your facts people!

And then proceed to not check my facts LOL, so I’m really going to need a source on that claim.

[-] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

It's in the OP. I unfortunately don't have time or energy to make a more detailed summary. You'll have to read the OP.

[-] Photon1c@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

Maybe if you had taken a little time or energy to read the comment you replied to, you could have read that I clarified that the OP was now spreading disinformation.

… And now you’re referring me back to the OP?

[-] Blaze@piefed.zip 5 points 19 hours ago
[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 58 points 21 hours ago

I've never really considered grapheneos. But if this many governments hate it, it's probably pretty good.

[-] deeprlyeh@lemmus.org 10 points 20 hours ago

Then as soon as a government approves it, stop using it.

[-] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago

Where's the article? I see a title and 26 comments

[-] Fleppensteijn@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Here's another article https://www.crimesite.nl/grote-politie-actie-tegen-google-pixel-telefoons-reseller-telefoons-in-voorlopige-hechtenis/

Police probably hacked phones bought through a criminal reseller, knew their location, then came to look for those phones. The title is a bit clickbaity, they're not just coming after regular people.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Resellers, I am fine with criminals being caught by good police work. Flash it yourself and you can trust it.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 35 points 20 hours ago

I don't understand what legal grounds they have to seize the phones. Just installing a different rom shouldn't be enough.

[-] archy@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

That depends whether the govt considers if you own your phone or not. In the latter case, they'd see it as breaking the law. Welcome to the renter culture worldwide

[-] Mikina@programming.dev 20 points 20 hours ago

The thread in question is about smear campaigns, from a brief skim I did not see any mention about them actually seizing Pixel phones? What did I miss?

[-] MidnightMarauder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

This campaign is mainly focussed on drugs related crime syndicates, having a graphene phone is seen as criminating evidence. Dutch police has a very competent cybercrime unit, a few years back they cracked a secure "pgp phone" network which exposed multiple drug syndicates and led to a large amount of convictions.

That said, stopping crime is always used as an excuses for states to crack down on privacy and other human rights. Its a slippery slope.

[-] Guadin@k.fe.derate.me 1 points 19 hours ago

This is just normal reporting. A lot of people think this is state-sponsored but it's just incompetence. Everybody with deep knowledge about a specific subject knows journalists never report objectively. They always have their readers in mind (what resonates, what do they want to hear) and also have their own biasses. There is a lot of wrong reporting on all media (fake news is not reserved for mainstream media).

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