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Radio dominated the first half of the 20th century but the advent of affordable TV sets in the 1950s seemed to spell doom for the format. Yet, radio endured. Radio was able to create a distinct image for itself, separate from TV. I have own theories as to why (cars, transistor radios and the music industry) but nothing conclusive.

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[-] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

Because Alistor is a crafty fucker.

More genuinely... they're not entirely overlapping experiences. Just listening without needing to stare frees room for more consideration or imagination.

There are things that are better on a TV, like a Marvel movie, and things that are better on a radio, like a Douglas Adams story.

[-] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

I listen to the radio a lot. The BBC has some excellent radio on offer. My favourite is Radio 6 Music, a DAB-only station that just plays music all day. Various DJs, a bit of chat, but mostly music. No ads. Like others have said, it doesn't demand attention, you can listen or not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Radio_6_Music

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

It's kind of a bonkers question because they are different technologies with different use cases only related in that they were both used for entertainment. It's almost like "how did trains survive the invention of airplanes?" (or boats and planes).

[-] PhillDanks@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

The amount of attention. You never sit down and say 'I'm going to listen to some radio'. Radio gets half your attention at best. When it's a movie or a streaming service or a TV then there's a battle on. When it's a background thing that requires little effort and (if you choose your station), it'll be broadly acceptable, why would you move away? Whether it be in your workplace, car or home, easily delivered engaging content wins. Unlike TV and physical press, Radio is not a 'burning platform', it has a few years left. Citation. I Ieft radio recently after 35 years in it. I wouldn't advise joining it as a career choice, but as mentioned, I think it'll be around for a while yet. (To the guys who say 'Cars'. All new cars are online now)

[-] knexcar@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

To the guys who say ‘Cars’. All new cars are online now

To be fair, I bet there’s a large market of people too cheap for a Spotify subscription but also too lazy to load music on their phone, who just want some sort of distraction while driving. After all, cars have had alternate ways to play music for decades now (8 tracks, cassettes, CDs, MP3 players via Aux).

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago
[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

And factory / construction work

[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Why are podcasts (read talk radio) still crazy popular? Cause sometimes you just want to listen without having to pay attention visually

[-] affenlehrer@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

You can listen passively during work (household, cooking, construction work) or while driving. You often need your eyes. Also radio often plays music which doesn't consume a lot of active thoughts. It depends a bit on the station though, some talk a lot and play less music.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago

Price. You can buy an AM/FM radio on an integrated circuit for probably under a dollar ready to integrate. I've seen radios given away as swag including wired earbuds.

Ubiquitous access to portable devices that show video is close, but the devices are expensive, data is expensive, and watching video while driving is illegal.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Hell, the entire reason I skirt YouTube official is so I can turn off my damn screen.

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

watching video while driving is illegal

...

And besides, that is also extremely dangerous for yourself and everyone around you.

[-] yukichigai@kbin.earth 15 points 1 day ago

It's basically all of those things, but also that a newer technology doesn't necessarily mean the older technology has no use. People still use bicycles even though cars and motorcycles exist. People still read books even though audiobooks and TV shows exist. The number of people doing those things may have gone down, but they have a specific use case and need that the "better" technology doesn't satisfy.

On the other side, there are technologies that get entirely replaced by the successor. because it's just flatly better even in the same scenarios. 8-Tracks being made completely irrelevant by Cassettes, for example.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

People still read books even though audiobooks and TV shows exist

Indeed. Why would I replace my reading time with inferior substitutes?

Don't get me wrong, audiobooks are great for listening while you drive, but personally? I still prefer reading printed words off the page.

(TV shows are fine, too, but they're a different category of entertainment than reading books)

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

8 tracks are better than cassettes, they're a loop so there's no rewinding and they have higher audio fidelity. It was cost that killed the 8 track.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Cars. For the majority of the 20th century, radio was pretty much the only way to listen to music in a car. That alone was likely enough to keep it economically viable.

[-] earlier_riser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

IIRC Motorola started out making car radios and the name is motor(car) and the at the time popular -ola suffix for forming product names.

[-] expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I don't understand how the two technologies even compete. This post makes no sense to me.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can't drive safely while watching a TV.

I feel like once self-driving vehicles are the only kinds that exist and they have TVs in them, radio will crash big time.

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

If you ask some police forces, driving with the radio on is also dangerous as it can also affect concentration.

Not as much as a screen, sure, but nonetheless.

Source: Know at least one driver who was given a warning using the above argument by a bored police officer looking for drunks. They were barking up the wrong tree, but the argument does have some merit.

[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

No portable TVs, you can listen with your eyes closed, music.

[-] Waldelfe@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Radio was portable pretty early on. Also, the first TV stations didn't play music. TV was for stories, Radio for music.

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Radio and TV are like apples and oranges. Sure, they're both fruit, but they're different enough to occupy different niches in our diets

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I’d agree with you on cars — cheap and easy to keep throwing radios in.

Sidebar: Not many classic radio shows made the transition to tv. Jack Benny, literally the most popular of shows, had a rough switch to TV because the timing was so different. For example: Instead of a foley guy doing a doorbell sound and immediately having it open, you now have a camera spending a couple seconds tracking someone walking across the room to answer a door in silence. The vaudeville structure of having a song in the middle, or trying to put on a show as the premise of the show, didn’t work (until the Muppets). Then there’s the whole laugh track or laugh box juicing issue that some railed against or over-embraced, and it all kind of fell apart. A few managed, but it was rare.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

well music did not benefit from a tv at all until music videos became popular in the 80's when video killed the radio star. Seriously though then there is the car which tapes and then cds and such sorta ate into but I know for myself I still just throw the radio on in the car. I real don't want any more of a distraction than that. I bet most people listen to broadcast radio now more often than watch broadcast tv if you look over the whole population. Maybe not but I would not be surprised. Its way cheaper to.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Radio made music a safe career for uggos, but now we just have auto-tuned beauties singing music other people wrote and performed.

[-] earlier_riser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

“You’ve got the perfect face for radio”… is something I’d say more often if I were the type to insult people…and weren’t also blind and have no idea what people’s faces look like.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

I mean at this point it will be all ai garbage soon enough.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Radio didn't survive TV. It didn't totally die yet, but it's been trending towards death. Lots of radio shows couldn't transition to TV and died out. Lots of stations simply stopped existing, or relied more heavily on syndication. It wasn't all TV related, as systems advanced, you didn't need a DJ selecting and playing individual songs. Companies were also allowed to own more stations from the 80s to 96 when all caps were removed, which led.to massive consolidation.

Podcasting has led to a resurgence of the talk show format, but less so radio.

Radio still exists, but it's mostly due to the last vestiges of public good legislation.

[-] XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Idk if this is TV tho. I think consildiation did a lot of this work. Like radio shows are too regionally huge now. Imagine you had a radio station that both played decent music and it was based in your specific neighborhood/town. It kept you up to date on cool stuff going on there. That would actually be useful to tune in to from time to time. But now its just "that city within 50 miles of me". Small town radio died.

[-] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

They are two different offerings. I listen to a lot of radio and I watch television too. For instance, radio is great for concerts (letting your fantasy run with the music), or listening to while you work. For tv you need to sit down and can’t really do much else, the experience is much more intense.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

oh yeah I forgot I had plenty of jobs where we had a radio playing in the background.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[-] remon@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But even today audio-only formats survive, maybe not as radio but as podcasts. Also cars, where you still ~~can't~~ shouldn't watch a video while driving.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It takes a long time for new technologies to saturate the market. It would have taken decades from the release of the first TVs until 80% or more of people had one in their home. Likewise, it took decades before a sizable proportion of people had internet access. It is only now that cable television is not a thing that most people pay for access to--replaced by streaming services.

As TV was taking over, Radio and Cinema would have had their place. Radio still has a place in nearly every automobile sold across the entire planet.

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Well, why would radio be superseded by TV? Imagine any situation in which a person could listen to radio. Could they just switch to a TV? Would they want to switch to a TV?

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

1950s were before my time but later in the same century, FM radio was what we had instead of internet music and streaming. You could call radio stations and request particular songs, or sometimes they would announce that they would play some new album nonstop starting at 7pm, so you would be ready with your cassette deck. Or in general, they'd just play music all day, so you'd always have something to listen to. That's sort of what people do now anyway, except it's whatever the youtube algorithm is promoting instead of what the record labels were paying the radio stations to play. TV was never a 24/7 music medium like that. I guess MTV was a thing for a while but that was still different.

AM radio on the other hand was mostly for news and sports updates, particularly in cars. So the most valuable advertising slots were during "drive time", i.e. commute hours.

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