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submitted 1 day ago by inlandempire@jlai.lu to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I've cancelled my subscription yesterday, conveniently it was about to renew at the end of the week, so I have a few days to migrate from Proton, here's what I'm thinking of, but I'd love to hear what other people are switching to

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[-] Manalith@midwest.social 4 points 2 hours ago

I would maybe hold off on choosing Bitwarden. Around the time they raised their pricing they started getting venture capitalist money so the enshittification there may be coming. As far as alternatives, the only other one I've used besides Proton is KeePass which could be make or break depending on how you setup the vault, I'd probably save it in something pCloud so you aren't screwed should something happen to your server, but YMMV.

[-] undree@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Pretty funny to suggest anti-open-source Obsidian in a privacy subreddit

[-] mub@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

The primary service that we all need to de-google (or de-proton in this case) is email. The trouble is, the available email services all seem to limit you to 1 user and a few aliases, unless you want to pay a lot more. This kinda makes sense if you are using the proton domain name, they have name space limits and don't want to become a spam source. However, if you bring your own domain name the breakdown of users and aliases is essentially irrelevant to the cost, and it should only be based on storage and transmit limits. I should be able to have as many user accounts and aliases as I like. This is what I get from MXRoute, and what makes it impossible for my to leave them even though they are mostly US based. I can't find a solid replacement service that isn't ripping us off with unnecessary limitations.

In case anyone suggests it, hosting your own email server is a very risky business, and best left to someone else.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

I'm enjoying vacation totally out of the loop here, what Proton did? Fascism or fascism?

[-] Konstant@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

CEO and other top admins are AI apologists. Wants their developers to work more AI code than the traditional way. There's concerns this could make Proton code less secure. Lemmy and Reddit are up and arms about the AI.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

~~up and arms~~ up in arms

It's an idiom.

[-] Konstant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Noticed it after posting but didn't want to edit.

[-] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

So if I like AI I should use them?

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think in reality it is more about the arrogance and the trump-adjacent world view. Also, a typical management line about AI being the critical tool to use without regard for its weaknesses.

[-] Meridula@europe.pub 5 points 4 hours ago

Instead of bitwarden, i can recommend Aliasvault. VPN, well i made some good experiences with Xeovo. As for drive, i really like nextcloud myself which also has meet and chat. Filen is a good cloud too i think.

[-] jonesy@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Cancelled my Proton subscription, told them exactly why. My only regret is I paid for a year and my subscription doesn't end until June 2027.

[-] gera@feddit.nu 2 points 5 hours ago
[-] greyjedi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

disroot has been completely down due to a hardware failure. Hard to recommend them to anyone

[-] ThreeKnew@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 3 hours ago

For... the email? It's had issues in the past

[-] Takeshidude@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Ive switch to IVPN; Njalla is really appealing, but I dont think you get the options of switching countries/servers, which I like doing if I start getting throttled somewhere

[-] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

You're correct about njalla. I'll paste in a previous post I made a few months about my experience using njalla...

I use them on my nas for torrenting.

  • €5 per month.
  • Accepts payment in crypto, including monero.
  • Can only use your account on one device.
  • Only one location, Sweden.
  • Assigns dynamic IP address to indivdual user session and each IP address is only assigned to one user at a time.
  • Any port(s) can be opened.

Most might consider it expensive give the limitation on devices and location but the freedom to open multiple ports makes it amazing for torrenting.
My nas runs 5 instances of qbittorrent and slskd all with connectable ports opened.

It works reliably for what I use it for. Other than that, I have nothing to report on my experience using them and in this case, no news is good news.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

Bitwarden is getting worse btw unless you’re running it yourself

[-] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Never understood the appeal, I've had my passwords in a keepass file on a Nextcloud server for years. If I'm gonna involve a third party, I night as well just use Firefox Sync (which I do for less important stuff)

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 hours ago

Yea... God I hate the world... I started using Bitwarden like... A few months ago, and they're already going in the shitter...

[-] reka@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

they do at least make it very easy to migrate away

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

It seems it hasn’t happened yet. They are still open source for now. I am still using my Vaultwarden with Bitwarden.

It seems it might be going that way though.

If it goes fully closed source then I imagine the fix will be Vaultwarden devs coding some replacement apps.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

Yea they haven't done anything yet but afaik they changed their licenses to prepare to do it... So it's only a matter of time

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I'm fien with Murena Workspace (France) and Filen (Germany) for Cloud, both OpenSource. I don't use VPN, only Cyberghost Proxy extension to skip country restrictions, maybe the SPN (multichannel VPN) of the Portmaster app, if needed one day

[-] night_petal@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

I use RiseUp VPN. It works for everything, but please don't use it to sail. Journalists rely on it and their hardware has been seized previously.

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