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!justdontgetit@lemmy.tf is a community for things that you just don't get or understand. It's a community where you're welcome to be the opposite of the smartest in the room. Ask questions about things of which have perplex for years like "why was seeing a pig run a consolation?" or "why don't we shoo our space in to the sun?" and for those of you not comfortable with asking questions, even those like "why is going to bed with your socks on even though you have a spouse a thing?", you're welcome to be part of this community too and answer questions. The only thing I ask is that you be and not a condescending prick.

I originally said "You're free to post text posts, screenshots or memes." but it seems to be mostly text. Feel free to change that with your posts.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't the reason the tobacco industry, stoking racism towards Mexican and black people, dissent against anti-war activists, and Nixon?

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cotton industry fought against hamp.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's shocking, the cotton industry is so well known for being on the right side of progress

[–] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Big Tobacco and Racism

[–] Studabakerhawk@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

At one point hemp was THE commodity like oil is now. Hemp was essential to travel, light, clothing, engineering and nutrition. They way they changed the perception from the most important thing any statesman had to worry about to something that only poor unwashed people bothered with because they were "addicted." It's nuts.

Imagine in the future once industry has moved on from oil and no one really cares about it except for Mexicans making cool hotrods and getting laid. So they ban oil because they're afraid of the Mexican hotrodders getting too much white tail. Blows my mind.

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Traditional boating equipment like ropes, sails, fishing nets and such was made of hemp. It was strong and durable.

Now they're made of plastics/nylon, which changes their tensile properties (when they snap they can whip back and cut off body parts) and makes them non-biodegradable. Every time you hear about some sea creature drowning it's because of bullshit plastics, be it ropes or ghost nets.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago

It seems the planet was a better place for non humans when we used more hemp.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the story is long and multifaceted, but from what I remember the most impact on the prohibition in the USA and globally was made by Harry J. Anslinger, who was married to the niece of Andrew W. Mellon, one of the largest owners of woodlands in the US. It had just been discovered at the time that you can produce 4x the amount of paper from hemp on the same acreage when compared to wood.

NB: Yes this is a conspiracy theory and I can't seem to source it right now, so take it with a few grains of salt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger#Campaign_against_marijuana_(cannabis)_1930%E2%80%931937

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But wouldn't getting four times more paper be just what we need these days?

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would also have been back then, but I don't think Mr. Anslinger and Mr. Mellon valued societal impacts higher than their personal business interests, public assertions to the contrary notwithstanding. Consider that Anslinger is the source of the "reefer madness" propaganda campaign that had serious racial implications. Where there are obvious lies there is usually obvious motive, in this case the business interests of his uncle-in-law, specifically the looming cratering of wood prices with this new development.

Again, total conspiracy theory, I don't have sources to provide. Learned this over a decade ago and can't find them anymore.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 2 points 1 year ago

It's crazy how we can look back and see how we chose profit for one or two people over the benefit of mankind.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Some of these things, like composting listed 3 different times, are true for literally all plants.

You could make a pretty lengthy list of uses for the different parts of a dandelion.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Homeless people scary

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