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Users report having their Apple hardware banned, Beeper responds by locking the discussion 😳 (lemmy.ml)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by bartleby1@lemmy.ml to c/beeper@lemmy.ml
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Update: it may be limited to those using a hackintosh in conjunction with beeperserv (the jailbreak tweak). Still kind of lousy of them to lock the reddit topic though…

Several users recently reported that after using pypush—the tool that Beeper paid $25,000 for in order to build Beeper Mini—Apple banned their genuine Apple hardware devices from accessing iMessage.

When their comments were shared to the r/Beeper subreddit, one of the mods whom Beeper appointed decided to lock the comments, citing the “need to investigate this further” and directing concerned users to “reach out to support through the appropriate channels.”

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[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Can we finally stop believing/repeating Apple's lie that the blue bubbles are about security? It's clearly and obviously about controlling their users.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Huh, I've never believed that. It's super obvious that it's a marketing gimmick.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

It's not even about controlling their users, it's literally to sell phones. The most impressionable demographic are teenagers and young adults. Apple has sold them the idea that blue bubbles are cool and green bubbles are uncool. Thus people without blue bubbles are outsiders, which creates societal pressure to them to buy an iPhone.

[–] dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just can't take this anymore. How is this not literally illegal? Right to Own, Apple

[–] bartleby1@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It would definitely be interesting to see this go to a major court. I imagine Apple will argue you’re free to do whatever you want on your device but that that does not extend to iMessage servers because those requires accepting pretty strict terms of service and will argue the users are breaking the EULA which they agreed to. Apple will argue they have the right to run their servers as they see fit.

We need new regulations around corporations that run these pseudo-commons platforms as “legit capitalist platforms.”

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

A ton of US politicians are looking at this, so hopefully laws get passed.

[–] yesdogishere@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

i dont know why anyone even bothers to buy or support Apple. They are a truly despicable, revolting, murderous, cruel, selfish, humanity-destroying company full of nauseating filthy staff. They are truly a pox on humanity.

[–] heyoni@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

what is pypush? is that the tool used for initial registration on non-mac devices? That's what I'm getting from the github page: https://github.com/JJTech0130/pypush

So are these users registering imessage accounts on non-apple hardware and then using apple hardware with that account? Seems strange.

/edit the mods responded here saying that the user is known for spreading misinformation. So they're not just banning a random person for saying this. Fyi I'm not banned yet.

/edit2 the user kugo10 is saying that the bans are everywhere but at least one user in that thread is saying their VM was banned but their iphone was fine and able to use imessage.

[–] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Found the mod

[–] heyoni@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s a lot of confidence for being very wrong.

[–] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Immediately defensive, checks out why you would have shown up in the comments.

[–] heyoni@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is that your best defense? You think people should take your stupid comments laying face down? You want people to be nice and sugarcoat things when you're wrong, maybe don't be as direct, confident and abrasive as you are.

Did I mention you were wrong?

[–] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that? Bozo.

[–] heyoni@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

lol. Look at you. Putting people to work left and right.

How’s that working out for you? Actually don’t answer. I really don’t care. Not enough to read your reply or hit backspace on this comment.

[–] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wow, so you don't care enough to reply but have been replying all along, very interesting. It's almost as if you ... care? Amazing.

[–] heyoni@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Shh

[–] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Baby forgot his words? 😢

[–] heyoni@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

Nope.

[–] entropicshart@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Shocked! Just shocked!

[–] wellee@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow, Apple sucks

[–] TheMongoose@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not to take sides, but one company built their entire business model around “let’s break into the secure messaging platform of this other company”.

Why are Apple the ones who suck here?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While the others is garden wall everything about our product series, removing consumer choice, and forcing everything done our way.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But consumers have a choice. Just don’t buy Apple products if you don’t like their walled garden. Plenty of other options out there.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly what people mean when they say "Apple sucks".

[–] TheMongoose@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

So in this context, “Apple sucks” means “I choose to not buy or use Apple products but still want to use their Apple-only messaging service and I can’t” and I’m salty about that”?

Jesus wept. There are so many legitimate criticisms to make against the company, and this is where they want to make their stand?

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I almost doubted this would happen because of how bad of a decision it would be to ban people over this but yet again Apple never seizes to surprise me.

[–] bartleby1@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

*ceases

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

this is why nobody remembers your birthday