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[–] ChrisHani@lemmy.ml 146 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was beneficial.

To white property owners. Much to the detriment of enslaved Africans and their descendants.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally the first sentence of the article. Emphasis added.

Students at Florida public schools will now learn that Black people benefitted from slavery because it taught them skills.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ironically, one of the (many) reasons this is total bullshit is that not all slaves were imported for unskilled physical labor. In the Carolinas, when landowners began growing rice they paid a premium for female slaves from west Africa who had experience with rice cultivation because they had no idea how to do it themselves. So it would be accurate to say that white people benefited from slavery because it taught them skills.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Property? That's a bit broad...

It was beneficial to slave owners, specifically.

And their families should be paying reparations for the ill gotten gains.

[–] TerryMathews@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're sniping, but I think the parent poster was accurate in what they said. I don't think it was an euphemism for slave. It was the 1800s. What would you do with a slave if you didn't own property? If they're not tilling and planting or harvesting, or keeping house, or cooking, what would they be doing? A horse would be far more effective at pulling a carriage, and keeping one as a sex slave - while it definitely happened - was strongly looked down upon by society at the time.

If you kept a slave and had no good reason to own one aside from sex, you might well disappear in the night one night - not out of protection for the slave(s) but racial purity.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most property owners ie had a plot of land could not afford a slave... they worked that land themselves and then forced their 6 kids do it for them.

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sick part you “borrow slaves from what was called New York stock exchange. Then sell a slave or get collateral.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Slaves were property. A slave owner was a property owner.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I've become partial to a language change to enslaved people and slavers. It emphasizes the humanity of the victims of slavery and refuses to acknowledge the view of human beings as property. Instead enslavement is a property foisted upon the victims and enslavement is an evil perpetrated by slavers.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cell phone and a car are also property... So is a house...

Not all property owners were slavers.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, I see what you're saying. True.

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[–] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

It's also basically the main reason that the US becamean superpower before WW1

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

pass on the message that "slavery was so beneficial that this time white people should be enslaved" and watch the whole thing die out.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes! Let’s take turnsies! I nominate the entire upper class! It’s time for people like Musk and his ilk to get into the mines!

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

my turn : I nominate all right-wing politicians.

why should they be denied the many benefits of slavery?

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Repealing slavery is the third rail of American politics!

/s, but for a while literally yes.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're already on the way to doing that. The slow striping of worker's rights won't have a natural end until everyone but the elites are serfs.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't stop working. Even if my retirement accounts continue to exist for the three more decades it will take me to begin drawing from them, I have no way to know and absolutely no trust that they quantity of money will be sufficient to support me.

The bank can take pretty much anything I own if I lose my job and fall behind, which severely curtails my ability to do anything except exactly what I'm told at work.

What's the major difference between this and serfdom, except that my current lords don't even have to supply me with food and shelter directly?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some are actually trying to bring company towns back. In some countries, Walmart pays their employees, in whole or in part, with gift cards.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US, Walmart pays their employees by teaching them to file for food stamps and then keeping their pay depressed enough to qualify.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Bonus, those employees use those food stamps at Walmart.

[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a sick thing to say…

When you care more about profits than people, that’s the kind of slavery apologist shit that you say… just disgusting…

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Students at Florida public schools will now learn that Black people benefitted from slavery because it taught them skills."

Are these people fucking insane?

[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t wanna chalk it up to some psychological issue, but I think they are very much in denial about this and will say anything to absolve themselves of the responsibility they have to teach history before it repeats.

So instead, they rewrite history…

Which brings me to my next point. I also don’t want to chalk it up to some psychological issue because literally whitewashing history like this is an evil thing to do. It’s a choice they are making…

[–] NukeminHerttua@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For some it's intentional and motivated by racism. For others it's probably just cold and calculated opportunism.

The latter don't really care as long as they profit politically or financially from such policies. It's like selling your soul to a devil, because "who cares".

Anyone supporting bullshit like that should experience few years as a slave to really see what the benefits are. Stupid assholes...

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

I am sure this will be the GOP/Nazi party line in Florida.

The changes to Florida's education system made in the previous decade have been dismal. Florida is driving itself into the ground, not the least because climate change will sink the state in the next century. DeSantis and his ilk need to be removed from office and soon or the states they govern could take decades or even possibly a century to recover.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Increasing temperatures and CO2 levels have been linked to decreased brain function. People literally can't think straight and get dumber. With the weather in Florida, Texas, this is beginning to check out.

On all seriousness though, how is this even legal for a bunch of local statesmen to resign educational system, whitewash history, prosecute women and minorities? At what point does the federal government step in?

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legal is whatever they can get away with doing.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, sure, but just what's the point of having The United States of each state sets up laws so different from other ones that they could practically was about them.

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[–] williamallenbro@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This isn't new either, that's the worst part, for me. Texas 2015

[–] SpringMango7379@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is wrong with people?!

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SeatBeeSate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fascism. Don't let neo conservative ethno fascists hide behind some cushy word. They know what they are, we know what they are.

[–] salarua@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

this. the GOP has picked their lane, and anyone who doesn't completely and unequivocally oppose the GOP is a fascist. this isn't a generalization or hyperbole, it's political reality now

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Same thing. Except I think Conservatism embraces ignorance more. Fascism + Prideful Ignorance = Conservatism

[–] PlantbasedChe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

"Sorry madam, but, you know... god is always correct and if people do not think so they will riot"

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatives are pure evil incarnate.

[–] PlantbasedChe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lack of common public planning has consequences

What!? There is something seriously wrong with this! Just don't do business with Florida at all.

the linked article is quite poorly written, but I also had to look at 4 different stories to find some details

When high school students learn about events such as the 1920 Ocoee massacre, the new rules require that instruction include "acts of violence perpetrated against and by African Americans." The massacre is considered the deadliest Election Day violence in US history and, according to several histories of the incident, it started when Moses Norman, a prominent Black landowner in the Ocoee, Florida, community, attempted to cast his ballot and was turned away by White poll workers.

https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/florida-board-of-education-approves-new-black-history-standards-that-critics-call-a-big-step-backward/

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