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I don't know if I'm just doing something wrong but I built my family tree and the website seems to have barely any information about my family at all. I found out more just checking out our national archives then what I found on this website. It's maybe worth noting that I'm not in the US and it does appear to be somewhat US-centric.

The best it could find was a couple of enrollment records for voting and a single immigrant notification in an old newspaper. It didn't find these either by itself, I had to manually go though the search system to find it. The OCR didn't even get the spelling of the name correct.

I'm not sure what I expected but it was definitely better than this, especially for all the pay walls they throw up.

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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 80 points 3 years ago

You just have to keep giving them more and more private information about yourself and your unwitting family, then something magic happens.

[-] xaxl@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago
[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 years ago

And then cops use the data to track down DNA evidence in 40 year old cases

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 years ago

its just another way they collect data and track people.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 36 points 3 years ago

Definitely US-centric. You have to pay extra to get records from some countries. Works very well for people in the US

[-] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago

I've been paying $25 a month to run into relatives that all have their trees set to PRIVATE.

They're my cousins / second-cousins, and I'm not sure who their parents are or how they fit into my tree.

The site lets you look at US Census data... from the 1950s or some shit. So I can piece together family information upwards half a dozen ways to my grandparents and their parents and so on, but I can't seem to get any info from the system for anyone born after the 1950s.

I keep paying because I'm trying to solve a spooky family mystery.

[-] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 24 points 3 years ago

That spooky family mystery is exactly why their family trees are all set to private.

[-] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 16 points 3 years ago

spooky family mystery

story time! :D

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago

Their grandpa married a ghost. They're 1/4 ghost.

[-] mawp@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago

Scooby Doo & The Gang in: WHO KILLED MEEMAW?!

[-] wjrii@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago

I was a spooky family mystery. There are records out there, particularly for the US, but you have think laterally and use resources outside their walled garden. US census records are only released after (IIRC) 70 years, so getting the 1950 census was a pretty big development. Beyond that, there are obituaries, phone books, newspapers, yearbooks, and others. I can even say from experience that the creepy "Radaris" style sites are usually leveraging some kernels of valid information in the free teaser data they show.

[-] soviettaters@lemmy.world 33 points 3 years ago

Clearly, you aren't a super white American. My family tree got filled up easily up until the 1600s because I have a bunch of family members with nothing better to do than catalog our family tree. Apparently one half of my family came from Scotland in the 16th century so I can claim that I'm Scottish-American now.

[-] paleasswhiteguy@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Source: actual Scot

[-] Senex@reddthat.com 15 points 3 years ago

Username checks out.

[-] mun_man@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago

I think its so funny hearing people are American (whatever country their grandpappy came from) 😂

[-] staceybassoon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago

We're just looking for something cooler than "I'm American."

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

It's because American doesn't tell you anything about where your ancestry is from. You could be from anywhere in the world and be American. Scottish is a pretty specific things, as is just about any other nationality.

I still only say I'm American even though my family is largely from Scotland. WV Appalachian (I think Appalachian in general) has a large percentage of Scottish ancestry, and it also shares the same mountain range interestingly enough.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago

I thought if I put my name and my parents and grandparents in, it would help me build a tree. Then it was so who are your great grandparents? Bitch that's why I'm here!?

[-] xaxl@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago

Yeah exactly. I would have thought by the time I gave it a parents name or two that would be enough, but no.

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 1 points 3 years ago

How did you do your username like that? Is it just emojis?

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago

Step 1: have an unrequited desire to be the center of attention

Step 2: emoji

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Step 3: Don't fucking care because I use an app that blocks that shit.

Step 3: Don't fucking care because I use an app that blocks that shit.

Check out Voyager if it bugs you so much.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago

It doesn't bug me that much, I was making a joke. It's like the Internet version of naming your daughter Genefyr

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[-] lazyvar@programming.dev 16 points 3 years ago

Most of these services are US-centric because a lot of the necessary records to provide the information isn’t public in many countries outside of the US.

Birth records, death records, marriage records, divorce records, voting records, criminal records, etc. is considered public information in much of the US. Even address information can be found publicly and immigration records become available to the public after a certain time.

In a lot of countries, especially in many European countries, these are hard to access for people that aren’t the subject of these records, if accessible at all.

For example while court records are public in much of Europe, often times the names of private persons are censored because it’s not deemed necessary to know who the parties are to be able to check if the courts make fair decisions.
This automatically excludes criminal and divorce information from disseminating into the public.

Some countries will make some records public once the subject of those records have passed for X amount of years, but that’s still pretty rare.

As such services like these have limited use outside the United States.

[-] ndru@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago

I built my family tree and thought - oh neat, even more ancestors to disappoint.

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago

It’s a group effort so if nobody in your country uses it then it’s going to be a lot less helpful to you.

I don’t know how it gets started in an area because presumably everyone else you know would get the same experience as you when they sign in so how does it encourage people to start building the knowledge base up?

I know that it works in the UK. My wife has used it and found a lot of useful info but had to add her own info too.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 2 points 3 years ago

Least you had a free trial so that's something

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