this post was submitted on 13 Jan 2024
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Sorry to throw this on everyone in the group, but there has been another mod shakeup and it feels fair to address it publicly.

MightBe has been removed as mod from both Politics and World News.

I also unpinned and removed their rule change posts.

The too long; didn't read is they were pretty hostile in messages to both myself and little cow, and when asked to join back channel discussions in chat, refused, and instead made unilateral decisions without group discussion.

Moderating a group like this needs to be a collaborative experience, no single voice should be establishing rules without some form of common agreement.

They not only refused to engage in that collaboration, but did so in a manner not fitting for being the new person on the team.

And it is a team. I tend to make more public posts than the others, because I value transparency over privacy, but when I do so, it's a result of a nice private chat among the group.

For now, their rule changes have been removed from both Politics and World News. Back to the stated way of doing business:

Politics is for US Politics - Somehow I doubt that's going to be an issue in 2024.

World News is for all News OUTSIDE the United States, that's what the normal "News" is for.

There ARE things the mod team is discussing, and any rule changes will be made as a group effort, and (hopefully!) for the better health of the group and ALL of our participants!

Happy New Year!

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's a bit funny to me that even when hosted on lemmy*.world*, the "news" community is exclusively for American news and the "politics" community is exclusively for American politics.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that was a bit of a head scratcher for me too, I wasn't around when it was all set up. "US News", "World News", "US Politics", "World Politics" would have been clearer.

Based on when the Admins are most active, I don't think they're US based, but then I'm writing this at 5 AM Pacific time so WTF do I know? LOL.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Lordy did people have their panties in a bunch over that discussion.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's the reddit equivalent

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be against a system where news was labeled by region or country in the headline, but I think it's too late because there's already World News.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I saw people doing this sometimes, but then it stopped. I liked it too, as it seemed like a good compromise.

[–] Lobreeze@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Seems like drama to not have world politics in an instance called world.

Why not make USPolitics?

[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

But USA numba 1. /s

The default US-ism is frustrating indeed.

[–] little_cow@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you want to check out the world partner to this politics community there is https://lemmy.world/c/globalpolitics

[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 2 points 11 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !globalpolitics@lemmy.world

[–] Lobreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't negate what I said.

[–] little_cow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

true and while this community was allowing world politics I was posting here instead of in globalpolitics but now that the politics mods have reverted that rule I am following it

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Your transparency, as always, is appreciated!

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I missed the drama. What were the unilateral rules they enacted?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

#1 being that Politics should be open to global politics and not just US politics.

That decision came out of nowhere, with no discussion. In a year that's going to be dominated by US politics...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It did seem like that rule was added suddenly when mightbe announced it.

[–] MightBe@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lund, all my communication to you were in the DMs, please show everyone the messages where I am hostile to you, because I don't remember sending anything of that nature to you, while you are making it sound like I am hurling insults and slurs at you which simply was not true.

For little_cow, I was frustrated with their actions with the MBFC controversy that both you and them were involved in, I was trying to find a way to handle it delicately, but you two seem intent on causing as much drama with that as possible.

Didn't your top mod tell you I was discussing future rule changes with them in the DMs? I told you before that I'm busy with work, talk to me in the DMs, if you want me to get on Discord for important things, schedule a time, I can't spend all day there.

It is really telling to me then that you worked with YoBuckStopsHere for ~6 months, while he said horrid things around our instance as a mod, like "dropping white phosphorus on civilians isn't a war crime", "a girl who is a victim of suicide doesn't deserve sympathy", or when he was banned from startrek.website for being a homophobe and the embarrassing events that followed, and you removed me in 2 weeks for daring to take feedback for improvement, actually enforcing the rules you set up, and not wanting to be a part of the powermod mess that caused this whole thing to begin with.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not engaging in even more drama. We discussed it, compared notes, Admins agreed, that was the end of it.

[–] MightBe@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you didn't want to engage in more drama, then why did you title this post "new mod drama", instead of just "admin action and mod removal" for YoBuck?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Because YoBuck wasn't immediately following another mod removal. ;)