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[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 111 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I gotta agree with cartoon Bernie on this one. Here in Utah the three big concerns of our upcoming legislative session are: how to ban more transgender people from public restrooms, how to prosecute women who may have had an abortion at anytime in the past, and how to ensure colleges and universities can no longer encourage diversity, equity, or inclusion under criminal penalty. I'm not joking, those are the main focuses of the upcoming session.

Never mind that homelessness is out of control, housing prices are through the roof, drug addiction is at an all time high, and the great Salt lake is now nothing but a mud puddle that will dry up in five years' time.

More important to score political points with your witless white-ass cronies and mormon shit heads.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I feel like Republicans have been grooming Americans into slack jawed cultists with their war against, education, books, cultural diversity, etc. the government is a sad clown show

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It's so odd we have a march today (MLK day) for "Equity, Diversity and Inclusion," while last week our Utah Governor called "equity and diversity the most evil concepts mankind can indulge in." And now Utah colleges are forbidden to allow any diversity in hiring.

[–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mormons also believe horses existed in North America prior to the Spanish bringing them over. All because a dude who wanted to marry his adopted daughter made some shit up about some golden plates.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The whole Mormon religion is as baseless and nonsensical as a Dr. Seuss story, only more silly. And it's really just a big business, it rakes in money from idiots dumb enough to give up 10% of their income to a cult. I keep telling them, I'm willing to do it for less - all I ask if 5% of your income and you can TA DA suddenly have eternal salvation, and more underage kids to fuck than a weekend with Jeff Dahmer. (!)

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there were North American "horses," they just all died out around 11,400 years ago, so well after the aboriginals got here, but a bit before the Spanish.

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[–] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how to ensure colleges and universities can no longer encourage diversity, equity, or inclusion under criminal penalty

Just wanted to note, Oklahoma just passed a similar law (this link is to a news article, which includes a link to the bill itself).

One thing that's crazy to me is when they go on about how much money universities are spending on these programs, when here in Oklahoma it's 0.29% of all higher education spending and 0.11% of state expenditures on higher education.

Shit sucks right now, and I dunno where my home state is headed. It's hard to tell if things will get better or worse in the long run.

Whatever the case, stay strong over there. o7

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Seriously, what's the point of government if not to HELP US. We didn't invent government to make our lives more difficult. We invented it to keep our shit together. For us. As a property of its existence.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Only if you hold them accountable for what they do.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Seriously, what’s the point of government if not to HELP US.

We would get surprisingly far if we got to a place where the government didn't actively hinder us.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Off the top of my head:

  • removing school lunch programs
  • removing women's reproductive rights
  • dragging feet on legalizing marijuana
  • gerrymandering certain states/districts to keep one party in power
  • politicians being bought by the highest corporate bidder

Those are all pretty big ways in which the government hinders the population at large.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wasn't JFKs speech supposed to be about not seeing a community only for what you get out of it?

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you understand how offensive that concept is to a market capitalist?

They don't even want to fund public schools, and they get a pre-literate workforce out of that.

"Whats in it for me" would be our national slogan, if it wasn't already "fuck you whether or not I got mine."

That might be what the speech meant in context, but the quote alone sounds like something Animal Farm's Napoleon would say to Boxer.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

American's vote for the government and fund it with their taxes. To believe it's a system with any other purpose than to serve it's citizens is assenine.

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[–] butt_mountain_69420@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're going to steal 30%+ of my income, I expect something more than a DC pedo party and constant war.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I keep telling people, I'll do it for less. Give me just 5% of your income and I'll be happy to fuck you over with inane laws and restrictions, plus I'll let you believe you're going to become a god in the afterlife and have a harem of however many underage kids you want to screw for eternity.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's supposed to be ironic ?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think so.

That Kennedy quote has always been a puzzler.

Not in meaning, but why the hell it's supposed to be some kind of American ideal to aspire to.

"Take what we give you and beg to serve" seems a more honest phrasing.

[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It's more about helping your fellow man, not the government.

You rarely see any thing else from that speech. If they'd just show even the part right after the "ask not" part it would help.

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

-JFK Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I do in fact demand better of my government.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Ok but also remember that Kennedy was demanding Americans accept responsibility for those less fortunate among us and that we invest in our future

[–] Rottcodd@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Unironically yes.

It's not an issue of whether or not the government will work for the advantage ofone group of people - it WILL work for the advantage of one group of people. It can't help but. It can't do literally everything - it has to pick and choose specific things. And each of those specific things will, if it provides benefit at all, only provide that benefit for some.

So the issue is merely who is going to benefit.

And the only way for we the people to benefit, as opposed to a handful of wealthy and powerful fuckwads benefitting, is if we the people demand that we're the ones who benefit - if we insist, "No - fuck you - this is our government spending our tax revenue and it's fucking well going to spend it on us!"

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bernie’s not a socialist.

[–] bort@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Governments who do not fear their people have no reason to maintain a culture of obeying their wishes.

You can demand it, but when your election options are all determined by insiders and you further contribute by treating 3rd parties like laughing stock, you've got nothing but some weak whatever's left of a second amendment to hold over them.

[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

That's crazy talk. You'd have to have some crazy government where you only get to vote every couple of years for one of only two candidates where the only reason to vote for one of them would be to not vote for the other guy for something like that to happen.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

elect nerds to public office.. nerds work hard and balance books..

[–] Raz@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bold of you to assume there's no socio- or psychopaths among nerds. Just look at the tech industry C-suite.

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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ask not what you can do for you country; we will be the ones asking the questions here. Your country will tell you what to do and either you will obey or there will be consequences, because the revolution was a lie and you are a fool.

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