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[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Billionaires make money off stocks and asset gains, so taxing income higher generally only hurts the upper middle class (i.e. doctors, high earning professionals).

In Canada the average effective tax rate actually decreases once you hit like $750k (I don't have exact numbers, it's been a while since I analyzed this one) because those people stop paying as much employment tax and instead pay capital gains which are taxed at 50%.

So, if you're middle class, or upper middle class, you're paying twice as much as the millionaires and billionaires are per additional dollar made.

And that's the best case because the really rich people put their assets under a corporation and continually "reinvest" their gains while harvesting their losses (businesses pay 26.5% tax).

So Rich people pay a marginal rate of 26.5/26.8%, while the upper middle class pay 53.5% on their income.

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Also people who dream about earning 50k a year

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[–] Paraponera_clavata@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Are there a lot of people like this nowadays? I don't know any, maybe I'm lucky.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

You may live in a more educated social bubble. I recommend joining some poor district or countryside bar or sports club and listen to political opinions to get an idea.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are so many loopholes. How do you "tax" on investments? My buddy is a millionaire and takes loans out on his investments and pays no taxes. Like WTF. I'm sitting here pay 35% and he pays almost nothing because the interest he pays can be written off.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You know like when you figure that the DnD rulebook is basically just a proposition, and you don't have to follow it, you can make up your own rules if you want?

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If space billionaires becomes a thing, they will get in queue to pay their taxes in time

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[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Why not 85%?

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah how the fuck did that happen? How the fuck did we get here?

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
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