Doesnt deserve the hate it gets. The VO thoughts from the book translate disastrously to film, but it's pure 80s camp and still hits all of the main beats from the book.
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That's always been my thought. There's so much internal monologue in Dune, how else are you going to represent it? The Scifi Channel and Villeneuve both seem to just kind of like, leave it out. Herbert's characters have rich internal lives, and arguably the most significant parts of Dune happen inside their heads.
The other adaptations maybe stayed closer to the source material for the details of the world in some aspects, but I think Lynch really nailed the feeling and some of the important ways of thinking that kind of get left out otherwise.
Thankfully, it seems like everybody's done a pretty good job with the source material so far. People grumble about the Scifi miniseries too, but it did a pretty great job conveying the first three books. I've been a life-long Dune fan and they all hit the mark for me. That's pretty rare in any adaptation, and I think it speaks to the strengths of the story itself and Herbert's fantastic world-building.
I can't even begin to try to like, rank my favorite Baron Harkonnen. They're all fantastic and take the character in pretty different directions.
There’s so much internal monologue in Dune, how else are you going to represent it? The Scifi Channel and Villeneuve both seem to just kind of like, leave it out.
The miniseries doesn't leave it out so much as work it into conversations that sound like they could have been part of the book, or have the characters wear their hearts on their sleeves more, which is why miniseries Paul seems like he's always on the verge of a meltdown.
Sure, but it's not really the same when it's stated out loud. It becomes less about characters plotting against one another and more about characters just like, talking really openly about their motivations.
It kind of suffers from that weirdness you see a lot in anime where a character who's completely alone will go into extreme detail about their plans or motivations. Basically an internal monologue, but delivered out loud into a space that's mid-way through the fourth wall.
Okay, but is it going to include a copy of the glossary that was given to theatre goers at the original release so they might have some idea of what was going on?
I love this film.
Don't be such a Herbert maaan stop trying to understand everything just roll with it✌️
A YouTuber I like once described this movie as being "like someone is trying to give you a learning disability". That always stuck with me.
A YouTuber I know once described Star Trek as being "globe Earth propaganda".
It was meant as a joke. Both the YouTuber in question and myself enjoy the film. He was commenting on how it feels to watch the movie if you haven't read the book.
Ah, yes that makes more sense. I love the movie but it is quite different. I also love David Lynch, so that helps.
Youtubers who comment on movies are the real learning disability tho
If it's the TV edit, it will be nearly 3 hours log and have a dreadful illustrated still art at the beging talking about the Butlerian Jihad for 20 minutes. It's awful and got the Alan Smithee treatment by the director (for very good reason). The TV edit is a hard watch.
The theatrical release is awesome and 2 and a half hours long. Princess Irulan opens with a bizarre monologue that fades her in and out. The movie is underrated because it's clearly 2 movies crammed into 1 (entirely the fault of Dino De Laurentis) but it's worth watching. The music, the acting, the wonky ass special effects - it's all mesmerizing even if it isn't consistently good. But at times it's fucking awesome and worth the watch.
Here's hoping we get the original theatrical cut!
this film has an awesome cast, top to bottom
it is original release