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[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 98 points 10 months ago (9 children)

It's so strange how the press covers Nikki Haley like she actually matters.

[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m so glad young people no longer watch cable news. I hope it continues

[–] donuts@kbin.social 44 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I'm not sure that getting your "news" from random TikToks is any better...

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They're not random, they're likely carefully curated (by algorithm) to maximize profits and promote the interests of it's owner, who is that again?

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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If Trump is unable to be president because of Court cases that should rule that way (will they? Flip a coin...), then Haley has a pretty good chance of beating DeSantis. So yeah, she does matter.

I'd rather her over the others because she's not so MAGA and far-right.

I'll be voting for Biden either way.

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[–] CodeName@infosec.pub 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People are complaining about not having better options than two old guys, but are also complaining that their rivals are getting coverage during the primary season.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She is easy on the eyes and can generally make coherent points. That makes her a very small minority within the GOP.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"The Civil War was about state rights."

Coherent.

Pick one.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

You understand what she is trying to communicate, it's s shitty hateful lying message but you understand it. Compare it to the rambling insanity we have all had to deal with since 2016.

By the way to be clear I am not going to vote for her.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

She’s been backed by a few mega donors who are able to push media coverage if I recall correctly

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

24 hours a day of drama to fill. Gotta cover something

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

330 million people in the US and both parties are going to run a candidate who should, by rights, be considered medically unfit for office.

I hate it here.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

“The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had — he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud.”

― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

One of my favorite books, but depressing people were pointing shit out 50 years ago and society at large is still ignoring it today.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 34 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It's obvious from this excerpt that Adams was mostly talking about British Prime Ministers, who are elected by the government and do not wield much (if any) power beyond that of being a figurehead. Of perhaps the Royalty, who aren't elected but hold even less power and are even more of a distraction.

The US president, by contrast, is not elected by the government and has a shit-ton of power, and increasingly so as the US congress is less and less able to govern due to Republican infighting. The US president can start and win a foreign war in less time than it takes congress to even form an opinion on the matter.

Zaphod spent two years in prison for fraud, meanwhile the US president is protected by more military firepower than literal nukes and has a chain of succession longer than most Kings because the US government literally cannot function without a President.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago (20 children)

Do you have any proof at all that Biden is mentally unfit, or are you just repeating what TikTok says?

All I see is that he's old, his stutter has gotten worse, and he tripped over a sandbag once.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

his stutter has gotten worse,

He was a favorite in the 1988 presidential primary because he was such a a great public speaker...

He got over his stutter when he was a child, and a stutter doesn't make someone say something completely different than what they meant to. Hell, he wasn't even doing it while Obama's VP, and he was in his 70s then.

Stop pretending he just has a stutter, he's 80 years old and he gets confused sometimes. It'll happen to all of us if we're lucky to live that long.

That doesn't mean he's still fit to be presidet, and he sure as shit isn't the best option for a Dem candidate even if he is mentally fit for office.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

He was a favorite in the 1988 presidential primary because he was such a a great public speaker

Were you alive back then? As I remember it, he was a perennial also-ran because he couldn't help but stay stupid shit now and then. It's as if the word "Gaffe" in politics was invented to describe stupid things Joe Biden said. And saying stuff like that stopped campaigns cold back then. (remember when Howard Dean's campaign got killed over screaming the wrong way?)

But then Trump happened, and all of a sudden saying stupid shit all the time was no longer a liability.

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[–] spez@lemmy.l0l.city 43 points 10 months ago (5 children)

A mental aptitude test for all politicians is a great idea actually

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

This could be weaponized as a tool of discrimination to keep minority groups or the impoverished out of office by constructing purposefully confusing questions. Just like the Jim Crow Era laws requiring people pass literacy tests to vote.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I get the problem, but I don't think it's really applicable. Voting is a basic right of every citizen of the country. Presidency is not for everyone. You wouldn't want a translator who doesn't know the languages they're supposed to translate? Why would you accept a president who is, let's say mentally challenged?

I could understand objecting to specifics, like why should mental aptitude get tested, but I don't understand being against the whole idea. IMO presidency is like a job and like most jobs there are specific requirements that a person needs to meet to be fit for that job. I don't think it's unreasonable to have certain expectations of people who are running for president.

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[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 14 points 10 months ago

I mean... Trump did take a mental fitness test, and failed so miserably he genuinely thought he had passed it. Person-woman-man-camera-tv, anyone? And that was years ago, he's certainly lost even more of his faculties since then.

[–] DigitalFrank@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Toss in drug testing and annual financial audits as well.

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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago

There's basically 3 rules to be president:

  • Born in the US
  • Over the age of 35
  • Never lead an intersection against the United States

If Trump can't be barred from running for his role in Jan 6, there's no way adding more requirements will somehow fix things.

[–] Mamertine@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Man, woman, person, camera, TV

The doctors were so impressed with how well I did on that intelligent test.

Fwiw, he passed a cognitive stroke exam 4 years ago.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whatever, really. She's probably 6-8 weeks from turning around and endorsing him anyway.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

She'll bend the knee like the rest.

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[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Trump hasn't been mentally fit since prior to the end of the apprentice

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago

Narrator: of course he’s not fit.

But neither are his voters, who would rather burn the world down out of hatred and spite than accept defeat.

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Haley needed to be saying this stuff 2 years ago.

She's clearly just a spineless flip flopping politician.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All republicans are mentally defective.

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[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 months ago

Why is that even a question in 2024

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No. The answer is no.

Go gloves off you pussy bitch Nikki Haley. You think your orange idol would hold back?

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Haley waited too long to go in for the kill, and that just shows she isn't the right material. She's going to pander to Trump's base who believe his obvious lies. They will vote for Trump. These clowns don't have the first idea about strategy or commanding power or assessing the electorate.

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[–] Mostly_Harmless@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Questions it? The answer to that question has been thoroughly documented.

[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

What is with america and demented old fools as presidents? You guys have some kinda fetish or what

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