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In a comment shared by r/Apple moderator @aaronp613, Reddit cited its Moderator Code of Conduct and said that it has a duty to keep communities "relied upon by thousands or even millions of users" operational. Mods who do not agree to reopen subreddits that have gone private will be removed.

If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users. If there is no consensus, but at least one mod wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.

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[–] AdaleiM@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that was faster than I expected tbh

[–] aranym@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

what this tells me is that it's finally having a financial impact

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.one 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ErraticDragon@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Breaking strikes also works, unfortunately. Look at Air Traffic Controllers with Reagan, or the Pinkertons back in the late 19th century. If there's a way to force compliance, they will. And there is.

[–] crilen@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Difference here is, I don't rely on reddit for income and have nothing to lose. They do.

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[–] xc2215x@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

It most certainly is working.

[–] LilBiFurious@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Classic strikebusting. "Oh you won't work for an increasingly bad shake? Guess I'll put these scabs in place instead."

[–] ethane@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's stopping the entire mod team from nuking the sub? They can remove all formatting, ban the entire userbase and remove all mod bots.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Rollback on to a backup probably

[–] pseudorandom@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then Reddit restores from backup.

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[–] etj@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

freenode, twitter, reddit shit like this is always a sign of the end

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 year ago

You mean a heavy handed approach and forcing your will on voluntary participants of your social media platform is bad for business?!?!

[–] Wander@yiffit.net 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're digging their own graves.

[–] wicked82@readit.buzz 34 points 1 year ago

This makes me think the protests are having more of an impact than they are admitting. Gotta be feeling a hit financially withs ads to make this sort of move this early. Oh well fuck em. Only reason I've visited in the past week was to nuke my 16 year old account.

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

reddit has a duty to keep subreddits open if they dont want their IPO to die in a fire.

reddit does not give a flying fuck about their users - it hasnt for quite some time.

stay private/blacked out for eternity, let that platform collapse.

[–] tattooed_dude@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn’t agree more with you OP. As someone who often got discouraged from posting on Reddit, I’ve been making an effort to post more here and all the responses have been great. I think it helps that we’re all new here and all on this weird journey together. That being said, I’m so happy to be here with all of you!

[–] matzah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

It’s nice when it doesn’t feel like shoring into a void, right?

[–] agentshags@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't they already put a scab in r/adviceanimals?

[–] Skray@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, they installed a new head mod and the new head mod bans anyone who brings it up. The new mod is a moderator of 106 different subreddits.
The funny thing is that many people remaining on reddit have been praising the admins for threatening to remove mods, because they hate the power mods who control all the subs and want to see them removed, but that's exactly who reddit is using to replace the mods they dislike.

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[–] nosut@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No. The short story there was an inactive mod was top mod and came back just to make the whole sub private and got backlash from the most active mod about it. Admins ended up removing the inactive mod. There is additional back and forth between the two that got posted but it basically ends as the one actually doing the work gained full control.

Yea but cedarwolf is online 24/7. Fucking scary powermod

[–] rouxdoo@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Flash forward 8-10 months and the news post reads: β€œAfter catastrophic exodus Reddit asks to join the #fediverse to add content to platform in hopes of salvaging doomed IPO”

[–] KoreanPerson@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They don't need to ask to join.

This actually will probably happen down the line. And reddit will only keep its user base if they provide a better ui.

Lmao there's no way reddit figures out how to make a ui. They're doomed if the fediverse keeps growing

[–] CoderKat@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, Reddit is likely to keep on trucking with a decent sized user base no matter what. A massive number of people aren't gonna leave, if for nothing but simply not wanting to have to change. I think the most likely thing that happens is that Reddit loses a small chunk of people, their growth heavily slows due to competition and a slow trickle of people leaving (but likely offset by the network effect still favouring them for new people), and they take a revenue ding because advertisers aren't gonna like all this drama.

The Fediverse will probably have a bit more rapid growth as the blackouts still continue in some subs and more people become aware of alternatives to Reddit, but then just grows slowly, with usability being the big barrier to massive adoption.

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[–] ethane@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit spent years coming up with the shitty new.reddit UI. By the time they improve it again, humans would have landed on Mars

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[–] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Remember guys, best thing you can do to get people to move off of reddit is to post more on Lemmy and Kbin

For communities you want but don't exist on either of them yet, make it! And crosspost to other comms so people know it exists!

[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They have two options: either hire someone and pay them to mod subreddits or open positions to (even more then currently) unreliable powertripping users who will destroy the platform.
I'm fine with both options. I'm not going back, btw.

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[–] uhauljoe@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mods don't have a duty to do shit, Reddit doesn't pay them anything, doesn't even offer premium at a discount or anything.

Maybe if Reddit was more concerned with not creating a toxic hellspace, they wouldn't need to rely on volunteers to keep their billion dollar corporation running smoothly. Everything about this pisses me off so fucking bad.

Where do they get off saying mods have a DUTY to them, when they LITERALLY are volunteers and reddit gives them nothing.

And maybe if Reddit wasn't killing third party mod tools......like the moderation still isn't gonna be the same no matter how many people you appoint bc you killed the tools that made it possible.

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[–] hildegunst@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

If your platform depends on the labor of unpaid volunteers, threatening them is not only super shitty, it's also generally a really bad idea

Fuck /u/spez

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

If you strike us down we will become more powerful than you can imagine...

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Whatever this turns out to be it will establish a precedent that all social media conglomerates will set the bar at.

[–] levochemist@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let them do it, only pushes more people to alternatives.

[–] 00111010_01000100@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish, but I've seen a bunch of redditors in the last few days say they didn't even know 3rd party apps existed. Even complaining about the blackouts how all it's doing is hurting the users. Idk if those are bots, paid comments, or what, but I'm sure a lot of people actually think that and it's sooo frustrating.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Plenty of newer reddit users legitimately think reddit itself is just an app and have no clue there's even a desktop site. I've blown some minds when I mentioned the fact that I'd been using the best third party app RiF for over a decade and used old reddit on desktop.

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[–] ErraticDragon@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It might push more power users away. It won't push away the teeming masses.

Quality will suffer, but they'll keep their traffic.

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[–] SkinOfAnOrange@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

There is no way I'm going back to Reddit, the higher ups are greedy and scummy people. Hope the moderator's they change to end up creating a toxic cess pool and bring them down with it.

Wow! So Reddit is actively stealing the work of creators. It's even worse than I had imagined. I am very glad that I have left the platform now!

[–] CodingAndCoffee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

surprising absolutely nobody....

There's always the nuclearoption: ban everyone, remove everything on the way out the door. I'm sure reddit admins can reverse it, they probably store everything in the database to sell later, but at least if they try to pull that stunt replacing mods they can be in for a huge pain in the ass.

[–] knowsoul69@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Redditors should scorch earth their content contributions. That way u/spez replacing the mods is only going to result in an open but crippled subreddit.

[–] ErraticDragon@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are tools to help. The best recommended ones I know of:

A Rust CLI app: https://github.com/andrewbanchich/shreddit/

A JavaScript bookmarklet (that feels a bit like a full browser extension): https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

[–] RetroRandy@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Used power delete suite last night. Worked like a charm. Sucked scorching my almost 8 year account, but they can eat shit.

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[–] Thief@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

Imagine trying to go public and creating this firestorm right before doing it. Complete incompetence.

[–] lixus98@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, there you have it. The "we only care about money" we were waiting for /s. Expect changes to increase profit to affect users even more than this, reddit as we knew it is dead

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get why mods haven't at least made sticky threads in every sub where they simply ask users to use uBlock Origin to block all Reddit ads and to check out backup communities on Lemmy?

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[–] Ralphensnitch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine being the only mod in a large subreddit, leading an army of untrained recruits. What does that mean for the health of that community? The quality of the subjects and posts isn't going to be very good, particularly if people start birigading or something.

They are getting rid of their best volunteers.

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