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Framework vs Macbook laptop? (midwest.social)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by clark@midwest.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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I apologise if this is the wrong community to post this in, I wasn’t sure which one was ideal.

I’m suffering a difficult decision of choosing between a Framework laptop or a Macbook Air (M1, 2020). I really like the ethical principles of Framework, i.e. you actually own it and can repair it any time, leading to an increased longevity. At the same time, I have heard people claim Macbook is superior in almost all aspects (especially battery life).

I know both Apple and Microsoft are greedy CorpGiants, but seeing as I have an iPhone, I figure it would be easier using a Mac? But then again, the prices really are not worth it, especially considering it costs a lot to repair them. I have 0 experience with Linux, and this computer will be used at school, so I suppose it stands between macOS and Windows.

I guess I just want some advice? Or some guidance and comparisons. Is 8GB enough for a Framework laptop? The 16GB version costs nearly as much as the Mac I’m looking at, hence my hesitance. If anybody has some experience using Framework and / or Macbook, I would love to hear about it. What are some pros and cons? Which people are better off with FW and Mac respectively?

Thank you!

*Edit, forgot to mention: I need a Swedish keyboard on the computer, and Framework apparently only offers English. This is the largest obstacle preventing me from leaning towards FW.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

Apple does flat-rate repairs for Mac laptops that haven't been damaged by impact or liquid damage. If they can perform a repair cheaper in-store, they usually will do so, but I am going on old info from being a repair tech at an Apple Store a decade ago. You could ask an Apple Store employee to get the cost of flat-rate repairs from a technician and then you'd know what you're potentially looking at. I've owned many Mac laptops and only needed a repair on one (and that was still under warranty).

I'm a Mac nerd who's fascinated by Framework laptops. I don't think either decision would be wrong. I haven't got to test drive one, so I can't offer an informed opinion beyond what I've said here.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

According to https://www.notebookcheck.net/ , a framework 13 with a Ryzen 7840U will run out of battery 22% faster than the macbook but will outperform the macbook by 85% on some benchmarks. I wouldn't pick the mac.

[–] clark@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Would you recommend the Intel or AMD version? I’m not very updated on what distinguishes the AMD.

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Framework: Repairable MacBook: Not Repairable

Winner: Framework.

[–] Soulfulginger@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am not very familiar with framework but I did switch from macbooks to a dell gaming laptop years ago and I am so glad I did.

The macs are ridiculously expensive, and even if you break just the charger it costs a lot to replace. My laptop now I was able to get for nearly half the price and it runs games and programs that I used in college better than the mac ever could.

Every mac I ever owned completely died in 4-6 years of purchase. They're basically guaranteed to not last a long time. My guess is you're better off with getting a framework

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