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[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This was a decent OS, came about in BeOS 5 when they started to run on intel. Just lacked apps. at least OS/4 Warp could run Windows apps, this was just a brand new OS with nothing yet. Shame it died out, but you can run an inspired version of it called Haiku.

[–] d3Xt3r 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yep. I ran it on my 450MHz Pentium III back in the day - was incredibly fast and felt so ahead of it's time, especially it's multimedia and multitasking performance, as well as the fast boot speeds. It was my second favorite OS back then.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

As it was explained to me, it could do full-motion video almost 30 years ago, it could switch around analog signals like cable TV and put them on screen in an app, it had ports for hardware hacking that you could control more low-level and directly. It was just better, by quite a lot. And Microsoft and network effects conspired to kill it before it got rooted and so it got thrown out with the trash.

[–] doubletwist@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Not only could it do full motion video, but it could, on a 200Mhz Pentium MMX CPU, rotate an OpenGL cube on any axis with a different video running on all six sides, and do so smoothly and without any lag or video stuttering. It was incredible what they were able to do back then. Hell I'm not entirely convinced Windows could pull that off now!

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I recall rumors that when it came to version 10 of Mac OS, Apple knew they needed outside help, and the choice came down to BeOS on the one hand, or NeXT (including ol' Stevie J) on the other.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Apple was negotiating to buy Be, but they couldn’t agree on a price. The rumours were that Be was asking too much.

The Apple board also favoured NeXT, and the rest is history.

[–] TheWilliamist@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I probably had some form of that at the time and was amazed that it could play two audio sources at the same time as well as have multiple running videos.

[–] stratosfear@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 9 months ago

There was actually 2 * more warp than that....

I'll see myself out...

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Man I loved BeOS. I had a Mac clone PowerPC, put BeOS on it and it was amazing. Really made everything else at the time feel dated and slow.

[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, did you use it as a daily driver? A friend of mine tried it out briefly, and it was pretty cool, but the lack of applications meant we couldn't really do anything with it (other than marvel at how cool it was). Did it eventually get applications developed for them? Like did they have an office suite?

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Gobe Productive was one of the best office suites around when it came out (as far as what I had to do). It was just so good. Other than that, I could email and browse the web. I was just starting to learn programming and The BeOS Bible was really helpful.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Gotta keep haiku alive

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I installed it on my Power Macintosh 9500. I was young and couldn't properly evaluate, but I thought it was cool. This was when Copland was also cool. I also wanted to learn about Yellow Dog Linux, but couldn't find books on Linux at Borders. It booted to a prompt CLI and I didn't know what to do, so I nuked it. Imagine what tween nerds can access now. I'm jealous.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

Replying to self: I remember when computing was fun. I miss it.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I still have it installed (Haiku, actually) on a small 32-bit laptop that I boot occasionally just to marvel at how awesome it is.

A port to Arm or Risc V would be great, it seems like a natural match to small SBCs.

[–] jadero@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, if you want "compile something unstable yourself," here is their official documentation for ARM64.

And here is someone's progress report on porting to RISC-V. They seem to have started in 2021, so maybe they were successful.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that the project is really hurting due to the original programmers having little to no time to devote to it, so I'm not expecting to run it on a Raspberry Pi anytime soon.

I wish I could help, but I'm no programmer.

[–] jadero@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago

That doesn't surprise me. I have Haiku running in a VM, but haven't looked at it in 2 years, despite the fact I used BeOS as a daily driver back in the day.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 9 months ago

It was a PowerPC OS way before it was ever an (Intel x86) PC OS. First on dedicated hardware, later adding support for PowerPC Macs.