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Hello, I am the founder of /r/RimWorldporn. We would like to move away from Reddit and are looking for a good alternative. We are kind of like /r/earthporn, so we require hosting of large images. We've been around for about 4 1/2 years and have accumulated roughly 30GB of images. The main advantage of Reddit is that it hosts relatively high quality images, for free. Would kbin be a suitable platform for this? We could host our own instance, maybe even centralize image storing on it.

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[–] youronlyone@readit.buzz 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • If you are asking if the kbin.social instance/server can handle your existing content and future content, you will have to talk to the admin.

  • If you are asking if the Kbin software can handle your content, sure, the software is only a software. Your data will rely on the capabilities of your hosting provider.

  • If you are asking if there are Kbin instances that can handle your content, you will have to contact them individually and find a way to struck some deal.

You can check this list of the different servers/instances using the Kbin software --> https://fedidb.org/software/Kbin

Or, you can host it on your own: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core

^_^

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So, trying to understand, what would happen if a user from another instance, that doesn't support, wants to look at mine, will they be redirected?

[–] Radicalized@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

They would be able to see, so long as your instance remains federated with theirs. Donations are volunteer only.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Sort of. When content is posted on instance A and someone is browsing on federated instance B, they'll see the content from both A and B "mixed together" in their feed. They'll be able to view it on instance A as if it was local content and post responses to comments and so forth normally. Someone over on instance B would then see their responses normally as well.

This very thread is an example of this. The person you're responding to, @youronlyone, is viewing this thread on the readit.buzz instance and posted his response over there. You saw his response on kbin.social and responded to it, and presumably he can now see your response to him over on readit.buzz. In theory this should all be seamless.

In practice, the programs we're using here are pretty new and are being hit with load they've never experienced before so there's occasionally glitches. But that's the goal, anyway, and I see no reason why it won't be workable.

[–] JonEFive@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

The main issue seems to be your photo storage requirements. In terms of federation, your posts should appear normally for whatever platform you're using to users who are on other instances so long as the instances don't become defederated for some reason (a rarity in most cases unless an instance has a large number of spammers or bad users).

To answer what I think you're asking, yes, users on other instances would see the post and would be linked to the images stored on your "home" instance in most cases.

[–] atocci@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

By support, do you mean an instance not having the storage space to host your images? The content itself is only hosted on the instance you upload it to, so even if someone from a different instance that doesn't have the space to store your content visits your magazine, they'll still see everything just fine.

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[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Self-hosting your own instance might be the best way for you. You can surely use kbin for this. But I would recommend you to check out Pixelfed, which is focused on image sharing and is a part of the fediverse. A dedicated pixelfed would meet your needs really well.

[–] JonEFive@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good point, but pixelfed is more like Instagram so it depends a lot on the comment & conversation style that users prefer.

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yes I was going to say this, it doesn't quite suit the needs of RimWorldPorn but does look like a great imgur alternative @LollerCorleone

I would like to note that it did not like me signing up from firefox, then verifying my username using chrome. It would not let me in until I tried signing in from chrome and then verifying again. I recommend passing this on to the devs as this will likely be too complicated for a lot of users.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

@TheVillageGuy

Listen to this guy!

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

30G is practically nothing. Any self-respecting VPS will give you that at the absolute minimum. My 7 Eur per month VPS gave me a 200G NVME

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Interesting, where is that?

[–] Damage@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Share the link please! VPS providers are kinda stingy with storage.

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[–] Bipta@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I'm a big fan of RimWorld and I'm very impressed with kbin so far. It's already improved a lot since 4-5 days ago. I say at least give it a shot.

[–] noodlejetski@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

maybe use a third party image hosting service instead (like vgy.me), and link to those in your posts? that used to be the norm on reddit for years before they've introduced image upload.

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, reddit used imgur. Unfortunately they re-compress too aggressively and have a maximum res (iirc) so we prefer not to use them. We also want to keep it as simple as possible for RimWorld colonists, so if we can bypass a hosting platform that would be great

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[–] nosyfpedestrian@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

30GB isn't that much that data, so you could probably host it on a kbin or Lemmy instance. It will however cost money, where as Reddit does it for no fee. So, your community would have to chip in to host the VPS/Dedictated server to host your community with. The other way is to join another instance that has enough of an interest and capacity to host it for you, like kbin.social but it will also mean you give up the control of hosting and the rules that apply. You could also look for image hosters that allow for nsfw and have a stable reputation, might be better than trusting an instance to work out with your images.

[–] Balssh@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not sure if you made the nsfw reference because you thought of the other “rim world” or not but I found it funny.

[–] neokabuto@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they misunderstood the "porn" in the sub name.

[–] Balssh@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a happy space colony simulator. It just happens that yayo, organs, and child labor is profitable.

[–] OneDimensionPrinter@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

My colonists beg to differ. There is nothing happy about their lifestyle.

[–] bad_luck_charm@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as I don’t have to eat without a table.

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

keep an eye on your organs there

[–] crilen@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wish I knew about the rimworld subreddit before, Would have loved to see some big bases

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Just don't ask who the chairs and hats are made of.

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Help safeguard them!

[–] bagonthebench@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that one thing that is worth considering is whether the plans you have are future proof. The Fediverse and open source model means that at least the discussions can be easily preserved.

Open sourcing also means that the community can more easily design scripts to archive information.

The image hosting is a separate issue, but again you should have a view towards the future and the possible preservation.

It’s the same issue with individuals who use Google or Apple for cloud storage of their images. At some point the convenience needs to be considered in light of the lack of power for preservation.

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Good point. That's one of the reasons why I came here, we don't want to be dependent on a commercial platform. I have safeguarded all the current renders, but all the comments / upvotes will be gone.

[–] brandonsh@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Self-hosting will give you the most control, and 30GB really isn't all that much data in the grand scheme of things. I haven't done much research into it yet, but I've also seen PixelFed listed as an option for image sharing on the fediverse.

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Pushing that much data out to hundreds of other instances might be a pain point though.

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's all images, PixelFed might be a better fit?

[–] zalack@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If they're a subreddit it's more about the conversations the images prompt.

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[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@tchambers this question is for everyone, I am tagging the owner as it may concern you as well. I have a few questions.

First of all, this is looking great and I can imagine this platform is under a lot of stress due to the mass migration form Reddit. Keep up the good work!

-Will it be possible to set the add type to photo only for /m/RimWorldPorn
-What is the maximum allowed filesize/resolution?
-I have almost 1000 renders on /r/reddit. Can those all be posted on /m/RimWorldPorn? (I have them stored locally)
-Less important: would it be possible to use square thumbnails?

thank you!

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am trying to upload images to /m/RimWorldPorn but it seems to fail on large images, giving either 503 errors or reloading the post image page.

[–] JackFromWisconsin@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Either Kbin or Lemmy would work fine.

[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If somebody could help me set it up that would be great, I am having trouble uploading to /m/RimWorldPorn

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[–] TheVillageGuy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When replying to this message my reply disappears after refreshing

Either Kbin or Lemmy would work fine.

If somebody could help me set it up that would be great, I am having trouble uploading to /m/RimWorldPorn

[–] dominoko@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's a visual bug. I'm having trouble seeing new comments on my own posts

[–] ernest@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

The queue is slowly unload. This should occur much less frequently.

[–] Sam_uk@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@ernest can you spare 30Gb for these guys? @TheVillageGuy S3 is working I think?

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[–] ivy@fedi196.gay 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hey, I'm @ivy and I'm the admin on fedi196.gay
I would totally be open to you using my instance if you would like. Kbin gives you the option to either upload an image or link to a preexisting image on the internet. depending on how they're stored on your end, if you already have it on a server you could link to it. if not my instance has 80gb of storage and I'm going to be setting up object storage with storj as soon as it's possible so I could easily handle a good deal of content. I've done my best to make this server as cost effective and reliable as possible so it should be pretty safe on here. if you want to follow up, please get in touch and we can get things sorted out

[–] slavethewhales@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hi there. Did you set up your instance simply following the guide on kbin.pub? I just bought a domain/VPS but I haven’t had much luck following the guide yet. Did you run into anything you had to do that wasn’t in the documentation? I’ve been looking for a walkthrough video even, but only found one for setting up a Lemmy instance.

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