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People are literally crossing the digital picket line to scab unpaid moderator positions to do free work for admins who are using intimidation tactics against their moderator peers.
Reddit is doomed
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
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If your money, reputation, family, friends, career, etc it's on the line, I can understand how people would fold under pressure.
You'd literally be walking away from someone who doesn't respect you, and then asks you to work for free.
How spineless do you have to be?
How American of them. Install your own leaders when you don't like what they're doing with their self-governed community
It's the USian way.
if forced to reopen, they should do it (rather than get pushed out and effectively give admins full control), but allow only a single new mod post every day- “day 5 of forced reopening discussion thread” and lock every other post.
And get kicked off day 2 while the threads get deleted. Probably the most effective way is to just open and not do any moderating.
Then get kicked for not moderating their community
Haha, that's probably true.
The more I think about this situation the more pissed off I get. Reddit is basically going to make bank off of the volunteer work of the mods and loads of user generated content. And god forbid anyone should have an opinion about Reddit screwing this up because they’ll fire you from your volunteer work.
No wonder everybody is flocking to the fediverse.
They can just go into the management back-end and do whatever they want. Spez used it to edit commenters' posts years ago, so he knows how to rig things if he wants to. Question is, how long will it take him to get fed up with us and get around to doing it?
If there are mods here who are willing to work towards reopening this community, we are willing to work with you to process a Top Mod Removal request or reorder the mod team to achieve this goal if mods higher up the list are hindering reopening.
Translation: please snitch and we'll give you control of the subreddit. We don't have enough staff to moderate all the subreddits ourselves.
Reddit always relied on unpaid work.
we will reward you with more rations and fewer beatings if you turn on your neighbors.
/r/pics polled their users: stay closed, or only allow pics of John Oliver looking sexy?
They chose the latter.
It's a brilliant move honestly
Wow, it's like they're trying to hire strike breakers for free...
What a shithole this has become
And the slew of shitty underhanded tactics continues, lol. Anything to avoid actually listening to their community.
I read a similar article and was going to post it until I saw this one. Awfully heavy-handed. So now he wants scabs?
Instead of addressing complaints and working towards a solution and forcing the policies only for profit is corporate capitalism at its finest.
It's the main reason why I'm done.
Well, that's terrible.
So the mods are reopening because they're being pressured. If the good mods would just... Leave, pick up an alternative. ANY alternative at this point. Lemmy, KBin, Squabbles, Spyke, I don't care. They could've migrated the vast majority of their community over before the API changes hit. But they expected a limited blackout to change spez' mind, and it didn't.
If they left, Reddit would be forced to reopen those subreddits with subpar mod teams. Even if they got great mods, they'd be spread so thin they couldn't possibly keep everything up. The communities would fall to shambles, and eventually even the most stubborn Reddit users would go looking for something else, and they'd find the community they loved in a new home, moderated by the same great teams, and they'd pick that up, too. Reddit would be done.
I think they're falling into a Sunk Cost Fallacy, honestly. They've put so much work into this community, into building this house. They're realizing now they built it on top of a fault line, and now the earth is shaking and its not stopping anytime soon. But they've already put so much work in, that they refuse to call it quits and go build again somewhere safer. It's a shame.
EDIT: I would greatly prefer they migrate to something decentralized and FOSS. Lemmy would be my #1 pick, personally. But pretty much anything would be better than letting Reddit bully them into free labor again.
I guess the beatings will continue until the morale improves.
I haven’t received one yet, but my sub is only 500k users, so probably on a lower tier of care.
I hope the Reddit mods don't crumble under the pressure Reddit is nothing without the community and its mods.
Of course the fucking Apple SIMPs bow down and submit to the wishes of Reddit