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Reddit beats film industry again, won’t have to reveal pirates’ IP addresses (arstechnica.com)

submitted 2 years ago by Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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While we can be pretty confident that Reddit has its own motivations (i.e. self-interest) for fighting these lawsuits, this is still a good news story for pirates.

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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 227 points 2 years ago

Food for thought: Lemmy instance admins probably can’t afford $800 an hour corporate attorneys to fight off subpoenas.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 94 points 2 years ago

Food for though: In the US judges have ruled on multiple occasions that an IP address doesn't actually prove what individual engaged in the act.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago

Might I direct you to the huge flaming catastrophe of bullshit known as "the police don't give a fuck lol". All they need to do is make it difficult, costly and time consuming to win and fuck you once you get hit with charges. And would you look at that, the US legal system specializes in all 3 of those! How convenient.

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[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Doesn’t matter, these are unpaid volunteers standing up instances. Most, if not all, have no desire to fight that battle on their own dime.

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[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The average person getting sued also can't afford an attorney

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[-] Skelectus@suppo.fi 41 points 2 years ago

Sure, but that's assuming the logs contain your ip in the first place.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago

Assume they do until proven otherwise

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[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 2 years ago

Oops, I accidentally fired the sd card containing my instance running on my raspberry pie.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 years ago

If that is really how you do it, you won't need to fry it, it will happen soon enough by itself.

[-] Cinner@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Seriously. Lemmy is a house made of patchwork quilt, with a bit of pine sap here and there to steady the few boards.

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[-] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

And this is why you VPN.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

MFW I went to upvote but couldn't because "error: VPN blocked" 😑

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago

Huh, I exclusively browse Lemmy through a VPN and I've never seen that one.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

He's probably talking about reddit They no longer allow vpn's or any user obfuscators to browse the site

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

No they don't. I use the site with a VPN often and it generally works

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[-] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

That doesn't help instance admins at all, though.

[-] Skelectus@suppo.fi 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It helps admins help you stay anonymous by relieving them from having to cover for you.

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[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 28 points 2 years ago

Would be a real shame if my instance's logrotate was set to, say, only keep a few days of webserver logs. Real shame.

Good luck establishing precedent with that!

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 73 points 2 years ago

I was going to download their movies to spite them, but looking it up they've only produced complete trash.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Sorry, you're going to have to be just a little more specific here, I'm wading in a sea of garbage over here

[-] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 years ago

I am so conflicted on which side should I be on :/

[-] arthur@lemmy.zip 73 points 2 years ago

A rough translation of a brazilian quote for you: "In a fight between these guys, I cheer for the fight".

[-] shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago

I'm gonna say this all the time now

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[-] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago

How is it hard to root for the anonymity of people? This is pretty cut-and-dry.

[-] onion@feddit.de 20 points 2 years ago

You don't have to (and shouldn't) side with any for profit company

[-] explodicle@local106.com 26 points 2 years ago

I'm glad Reddit won here because it sets a precedent that will protect less well-funded Lemmy instances.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

Ever?

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 8 points 2 years ago

Small exception for when two for profit companies are fighting each other. At that point it becomes a question of which is the lesser evil.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago

So like the US elections.

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[-] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you think reddit is on your side, think again.

Reddit can eat my ass with a spoon

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Exactly, but it's still a helpful win regardless.

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[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Firms wanted seven years' worth of IP address logs

I doubt - or hope they don't - Reddit stores them for that long?

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 33 points 2 years ago

It's data that could have value, so I doubt they don't store it. I think the movie studios didn't offer enough. Or Reddit thought it was too damaging for this particular sale.

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[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Le reddit wins legain, m'fellows!

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

thanks for the pic it really makes my eyes piss jizz in my mouth

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[-] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

You'll never narwhal my bacon, see!

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

For real tough, Steve can suck diseased dicks in hell.

[-] Gooey0210@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

What is reddit?

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

it's where everyone in Lemmy came from

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[-] explodicle@local106.com 16 points 2 years ago

An instance with poor interoperability and boot licker admins.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 6 points 2 years ago

Baby don't hurt me

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