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[–] iterable@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (14 children)

What is wrong with Ghost in the Shell?

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[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Why not games, too? Final Fantasy VIII comes to mind as one super deserving of a glow up, as well as YIIK, and especially Drakengard. All RPGs, of various flavours, with substance that just needs to be simmered right.

For movies? Fuck it, Sharkboy and Lavagirl.

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[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

OH MY GOD YES. Let's see, They Live (I actually really liked that one), Re-animator, Howard the Duck, and grave encounters series

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[–] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Wonder Park was a bland, risk-averse animated film in 2019. A little girl's imaginary theme park (and coping mechanism for her grief) actually exists. Remake it as an ongoing animated series.

[–] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with the premise, but your example is, like, spectacularly bad. The Ghost in the Shell movie you're thinking of, the recent one? THAT WAS A REMAKE THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE, IN THE FIRST PLACE.

The original is good. It didn't need a remake. You're literally talking about the opposite of your whole premise. They took a movie that was already good and made a remake of it, to make it suck, except for the fact that it had Scarlett Johansson in a very tight robot suit.

EDIT: nevermind! The title is an example of how it's currently done wrong. That makes so much sense, now that someone pointed it out.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

OP was mentioning GITS as an example of how it's currently done (wrong). The "instead of remaking great movies" part

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

I think the main thing here is that the original was such a flop that they don't want to repeat the error.

It's a hard sell to take an unsuccessful film (with admittedly a good underlying story/concept), and then convince the suits that this time will be different because reasons.

When they can remake an old hit, even if it's done poorly, most people will want to see it for themselves, if for no other reason than to join in on the chorus of hate. Those ticket sales are still sales. So whether people like it or not, they stand a good chance to turn a reasonable profit.

Meanwhile, films that did poorly, whether due to script issues, or poor execution of the underlying material or whatever, people will be more willing to let it pass them by unless they have it on his authority that it's good. Of course, not everyone will think this way, but it's the basis for judgement for most.

Additionally, by remaking a movie they can renew their copyright on the film, which is why, I believe that many of the older films are getting unnecessary remakes and sequels. Even if it's bad, it locks them in on copyrights for a while longer; so if they want to continue to profit from the property, whether through licensing, promos, merchandise, whatever, they can. The base point being: does anyone want to license this property? If not, the suits wouldn't care as much if the copyright expires.

Think about something like star wars. It had a pretty strong following at the first three films, even decades after the release, it was very likely that there were ongoing licensing deals. So to renew the copy rights, they remastered and rereleased it to theatres. Even if it flopped, it would have ensured they can continue their licensing deals for years to come. Since it didn't, they decided instead to expand the franchise and see if they can get more money from it, and they did. Which is how we ended up with the sequels and several spin off shows.

Simply put, it's just too risky to invest more money into properties to renew copyright when there's no interest in licensing the content in the first place. Many of the production companies are happy to let a property rot while they're collecting paycheques on licensing. It's all about the numbers.

[–] unknown@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

How many goes have that had with the hulk and spider man movies?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

There are some really good movies I wouldn’t mind a modern rendition of.

Forest Gump, I think, would be an absolute winner. Whole premise could be redone every 30 years (yes it’s been 30 years) with great effect.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Forrest Gump is so much a story about the time period, this would be a vastly different movie. I'd say just make a unrelated movie inspired by Forrest Gump, instead of trying to make it a remake and thus give yourselve unecessary restraints.

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