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We are now literally one step from "ovulation is murder."
That's not an exaggeration. The only step past "IVF embryos are babies" is "ovulation kills a baby."
Technically, ovulation without fertilization would be the benchmark.
Also, you probably can't miscarry. Which happens 10-15% of the time on average, and is much higher for some individuals.
These people are out to lunch. How stupid, uneducated, and emotional could someone possibly be?
The only people who are stupider are undecided or non-voters.
Not to mention the statistic that ~50% of fertilized eggs fail to implant. So getting your period may be evidence of murder.
Five years from now, red states will have laws that say every woman's menstrual tissue must be collected for analysis in case the egg was fertilized without implanting. If this happens, she will be charged with murder.
Oh, and women will still need to buy their own menstrual products and pay sales tax on them.
The only people who are stupider are undecided or non-voters.
God, tell me about it. I've seen so many reactionary takes with what's going on in Gaza and the US support for it, insisting they're staying home over it, when if they thought out the problem for like 5 seconds more, they'd realize what absolute children they're being.
Not only is not voting going to result in America taking a MORE extreme stance on Gaza, but it also invites endless suffering from this and other extremist positions, that will hurt us, our families, and our loved ones. Real fucking strategery there guys. I really hope I'll have it in me to rub their faces in the inevitable consequences, but realistically I'll be too much of a shell to care after seeing everyone I love suffer.
The cheek cells in spit have a full set of chromosomes and given the right conditions could be turned into a growing embryo. Guess that means dentists are mass murderers now, all those little potential lives going down that suction tube of death.
I think they draw the line at fertilization, but everybody does loves to shift their goalposts on the hill they choose to die on.
"Fertilization" is a continuum, not a moment in time. I know everyone thinks of that magic moment when the one sperm breaks through the outer membrane, from the video we all watched in 7th grade. But that "moment" could be anytime during a span of days, and there are a hundred "moments" before and after that determine whether the egg will be viable and attach to the uterine wall. And then there are a thousand more moments that determine if the uterus is hospitable and the mother capable of supporting a pregnancy to term. And then there are a million more moments between when the pregnancy begins and the baby is born and separated from the mother. Until that point, objectively, it is not yet an independent person.
It's not just shifting goalposts. Fertilization is a line in the sand under water. Theoretically, you could say it exists, but you're going to have to redraw the line every time you try to find it, and it's gone pretty much as soon as you look away.
Anyone who chooses to die on that hill is a religious fruitcake, devoid of value as a thinking human.
They draw the line at women having equal rights.
Someone else came up with this.
Imagine you're in a clinic. Fire breaks out. You have a choice; save a living baby or 5,000 frozen embryos.
This is the new Republican "trolley problem".
Republicans
Very simple. The living baby is a piece of shit, we only care about the unborn.
Another mouth to feed in the welfare state bleeding the job-creators dry.
Is the baby a Republican or Democrat?
Hamas.
Do they have social security numbers? Can the hospital claim them as dependents? Can an eighteen-year-old embryo vote?
They’ll recruit the 18 year old embryos into the military.
Republicans in a race to the bottom to figure out who can say the stupidest thing possible. Between this and Jewish space lasers, I think the competition is heating up.
I just realized, why isn’t Israel using the space lasers to level Gaza?
Because they're the most moral army in the world. :-/
everything is a fucking baby nowadays. quick hypothetical: you're in a burning building, in that building is a single two year old, and a cooler with 10,000 fertilized embryos in it. You can only grab one. Do you rescue the two year old, or 10,000 "babies"? If one embryo = one child then it's pretty obvious what the right decision is, right?
An embryo is nothing without implantation.
Next step: conscripting women to carry them because the "life" of the embryo is more important than their own.
🎵🎶every sperm is sacred🎵🎶
Why is Nikki Haley starting a war on Christianity? Does she hate Jesus? Does she think she knows more than God? She is oppressing good religious people who follow the bible which says life begins at first breath. She will burn in hell.
Bible jeopardy time!
If the life of the flesh is in the blood and embryos don't have blood cells, then embryos are ____.
I can't believe they're allowing people to freeze their babies, leaving them alone in freezers with strangers for only god knows how long. I'm worried that some sick democrat might sneak in and give them a free lunch!
Paramecium? Baby.
Amoeba? Baby.
Toxoplasmosis gondii? Believe it or not, also baby.
Hey, we don't even have to leave humanity.
Cancer? Baby.
In fact...
Embryo:
Cancer:
Second one's got more cells. That means it's more of a baby, right?
Hmm, unique DNA? Check
Living parasitically off of another human being? Check.
Potentially fatal? Check
Yep, cancer is a baby.
Hey you fucking self-hating misogynistic dipshit, if "embryos" are the same as "babies" then why the fuck do we have different words to describe them?
Almost like words fucking matter.
Bruh. Nothing matters to these charlatans.
I cant wait for this cunt to fuck off into obscurity. After the generals and hopefully some damage to the leading republican traitor.
“Embryos, to me, a person who is not qualified to make the assessment and is not a doctor, are babies”
Fixed that for her
Sheer insanity.
Haley, to me, is an idiot.
I wonder if Haley is vegan. She seems willing to expand the definition of what is a life and what is sacred. Which is more alive, an adult cow or a single cell human embryo? Are either acceptable to eat? Why or why not?
Better start protesting outside IVF clinics then considering they destroy unused embryos.
You joke, but it sounds like IVF clinics are all but closing down in Alabama because of this ruling. The IVF parents who sued because they accidentally lost embryos have made it so no one can use IVF in the state at all.
So should women be considered child murderers when they ovulate and don't get pregnant?
Fucking stupid.