"We don't want to live in a world where the Chinese are the dominant country," says US Ambassador to China Nicholas Burns (twitter.com)

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[-] MarcoPOLO@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago

"the Chinese"

Not China (the country), not the PRC (the country), but "the Chinese."

Because that's what the US ambassador thinks of Chinese people.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

"Hate the government not the people" proceeds to bomb/sanction/sabotage the people

[-] Neon_Shadow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

They only want a world controlled by white men. They'll bomb and kill anyone that threatens their fascist utopia.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

What do you expect when their last and next president calls them chinamen?

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 years ago

If that is the case, you probably should have thought about that 50 years ago when "you" allowed and encouraged industries to out-source. But it's too late now.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Uh, too late? By like 300+ years?

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Well, we can work towards changing that, and judging by this article we're well on the way it seems.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

But assuming that one has to be dominant, which would you choose of the ones that are realistic possibilities?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Whoever promises more support to anti-imperialist efforts, so that the world may build itself up together.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

All 3 have, what are you smoking? The US is one of the most imperialistic nations on Earth. That's not to say Russia and China aren't either, but to pretend the US didn't forcibly annex territories is to wash away the centuries of genocide and Conquest as "okay" because it was done successfully and more than a few years ago.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

Do you consider things which happened hundreds of years ago to be of the same weight as things that are happening as we speak?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Do you consider things which happened merely decades ago, even up to hundreds of years ago, have lasting impact on generations that follow?

If you successfully do Imperialism, such that the colonized can no longer resist, does that erase the sin?

[-] realitista@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

They all are.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is that the only expression of Imperialism you personally accept? Literal annexation? Hawaii. Vassal states? Cuba. The notion that Imperialism is just Conquest is laughable.

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[-] realitista@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago

Definition of imperialism: The extension of a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political dominance over other nations.

Definition of hegemony: The dominance or leadership of one social group or nation over others.

I would be a little more nuanced with my definitions personally. I think Russia is textbook imperialist. I think China is borderline imperialist, and I think the USA is more hegemonic.

I think all 3 play all the same games except that the USA doesn't play in territorial expansion, which for me is a big improvement over those that do.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

The US is built on territorial expansion, lmao. Indigenous Americans who had their land stolen from them have been generationally impacted! The consequences of slavery have set Black Americans back centuries economically! Hawaii was forcibly annexed very recently in a historical frame of viewing!

The US is perhaps one of the most Imperialist countries on the planet, just because it now fights proxy wars rather than direct Conquest doesn't make it any less evil. Here's a hint: the US stopped using Conquest for land acquisition because it already succeeded, not because it's a morally superior Imperialist power.