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Romeo Chicco’s auto insurance rate doubled because of information about his speeding, braking and acceleration, according to his complaint.

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[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 141 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm rootin for ya, Florida Man

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 48 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For once it's not a crazy headline. It feels like the Florida men are always doing weird stuff

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because they have open records for police activity. The same crazy stuff probably happens in your area, it's just not required to be public information.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty impressive that lack of privacy in a single state can create an entire stereotype about it.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just goes to show how releasing information selectively (in this case, just 1 state) can influence public sentiment and stereotypes.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Imagine how much worse America would look if every state had that same law.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

No no no, that's just "Florida Man", that's the one dude you keep hearing about. Florida Georg is a statistical outlier and should not be counted.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Finally, a positive Florida Man story

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 48 points 7 months ago

Florida Man is Chaotic Neutral, it has no purpose, no goals only the exploration of what is possible.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

Not sure it's positive; given the US' asinine privacy laws, I don't see this going anywhere.

[–] mac@infosec.pub 67 points 7 months ago

The most sane news headline starting with "Florida man"

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, we've seen this before. Case dismissed because of lack of standing, due to the fact that there were no damages.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

His rates doubling wouldn't be considered damages?

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Finally, the hero we need!

[–] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://consumer.risk.lexisnexis.com/consumer

You can go here to get a copy of your report.

If you're in California you can limit their collection and dissemination in the future and have your data deleted.

If you dig into your car's infotainment system to opt out of everything you can find, don't forget any app you might have installed.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Louis Rossmam did a video on it. I think it's both on odyssey and youtube

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That was about a Chevy Volt, not a Cadillac.

[–] Trae@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

GM owns Chevy and Cadillac. There's literally no difference between the two except exterior branding.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

I just think that details matter. All Cadillacs are GM, all Chevys are GM, not all GMs are either of those. But yeah, fundamentally, GM does this.

Interesting, they should team up.

[–] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

These different car manufacturers couldn't possibly use the same 3rd-party data service?

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's the world we live in. Too many data merchants, which makes it hard to maintain privacy. It's up to each of us to help those that don't know better by providing them with the information when requested, and for those of us that want privacy, to do our homework and ask in the pertinent places and ways, to achieve as much privacy as humanly possible. For too many people the trade off of convenience for more privacy is not worth it (my wife is unfortunately part of that group), and pushing them only makes them look at us like fanatics (which I am to a certain level). Help where we can, leave people that don't want to hear about it alone, and respect every perspective, regardless of if we agree or not. This will make for better interactions when discussing any subject in a constructive manner.

[–] argueswithidiots@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I see this post is old enough that my comment is less likely to be seen but i feel this is a somewhat relevant anecdote regarding the sale of automotive data.

last april i bought a used car. i had not owned or driven a vehicle in well over a decade. i had never operated a vehicle with a computer, not like the kind this car had at least with its 'infotainment' console and numerous digital featrures. one such 'feature' was the navigation system. a map on the little tv in the console would show me directions after i entered an address into it. how useful!

i was taking a trip to visit my grandparents not long after buying the car and to test out the navigation system, i entered their address into it. it failed to give me correct directions however, since the nav system was ran off an SD card inserted into a port inside the storage space between the driver and passenger seats. the car was made in 2013 and the sole previous owner had never used the nav system. the SD card was in its original packaging, unopened and in the glove box.

i ended up visiting the grandparents by finding their home by memory, the way i normally navigate, and went on with my life. after that weekend, i learned the car had a recall. i could take it to a authorized dealership and have the faulty system replaced at no cost to me. so i did just that. the recalled part was supposedly fixed and all seemed well.

a week or two passes and i get a call from my grandfather. he recieved mail addressed to me, asking if i wanted to sell my vehicle. my name, his address. i have never searched for his address on the internet, i know it by memory. the only place i have ever entered the location was in that car navigation system. i have never even spoken the address out loud nor heard it spoken in several decades, so those who believe phone are always recording with their microphones.

i believe the only way that mail could have been sent in my name to their address, was through the navigation system data being downloaded from the car and sold to third parties. my grandparents have recieved several pieces of mail addressed to me since then. always, it is referencing my vehicle, with the correct make, model and year showing.

i will never trust ford or purchase their products ever again. i should have known better than to have purchased this car, but it was a very good price with only one previous owner and a great carfax report.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

i will never trust ford

Every car company does it now. You cannot buy a car that isn't selling your data.

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's true. For one thing, it's easy to buy a car from a random person, without granting any permission to any car company to download stuff from your car and sell it. If a car company were to access your car without permission, you could sue for damages (see OP).

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[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 7 months ago

So far this is the best automated account deletion and opt-out request software I’ve found: https://www.permissionslipcr.com/

For some companies it’s push-button. For others it can only initiate the requests. But so far it works as advertised.

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