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[–] lennster@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 year ago (12 children)

We should really be investing more in public transit, it's way better than electric cars and could be way more convenient if implemented properly

[–] grue@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

It all starts with fixing the zoning code. Cars will always be "more convenient" if we keep destroying our cities to make space catering to them.

[–] potpotato@artemis.camp 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Design a city around electric wheelchairs and you’ll have a system accessible to everyone.

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Conveyor belts everywhere ♥️ no need for electric wheelchairs.

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[–] AToM_exe@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem is that citys are built around cars.

The first question is not how people can reach shops by foot, or with public transit. The first step is always to build streets to stuff and later figure out if you can might fit in a bus route, or maybe a cycling lane.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the USA at least. In Europe it's everything but perfect, of course, but at least we have some public transport in cities and between them.

But yeah, the bike paths here in Austria are just getting bigger since some years again - and every cm seems to be a hard fight...

[–] BoneALisa@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cities were not built around cars, they were bulldozed for the car.

Cities were built to be walkable, and had trams for everything else. Then we invented the car and General Motors essentially took america by the balls and forced everyone in americs to become dependant on the car

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The problem is that destinations are spread too far apart for walking, viable transit, etc. because the zoning code forces developers to build low density and massive amounts of parking.

[–] talos@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I can spend 17 minutes driving to work, or 1.5 hours catching buses. Easy choice for me.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Right, that's why we need to stop subsidizing streets and roads, make users pay the cost of them, and put the tax money toward transit. It's really impossible to ask anybody but the most devoted to make extremely inconvenient choices. Certainly, there are some lunatics who'd drive a car even if it took 1.5 hours, but most people would choose the 17 minute bus.

Cheaper, sustainable, safer, better for mental health, better for non-drivers (children, elderly, disabled). It just makes sense.

[–] joulethief@compuverse.uk 14 points 1 year ago

I really underestimated the effect on my mental health. My commute takes double the time now but that's alright because since switching to public transit, I'm getting to work and back home much calmer.

[–] Md1501@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You are right, if a bus ride was 17 or even 30 minutes to work I would take the bus. But in my area a bus ride is 2 hours one way.

[–] protput@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I also had a commute of about 17min with car. The same route with an electric bike takes me 35min. I'm not out of breath with it and I still have some exercise. I still take my car when it rains.

[–] LazyBane@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Alot of people forget that just becuase a bus commute works for them doesn't mean it works for everyone.

Alot of people have a legitimate reason for owning a car, and if we want then to use public transit then we need public transit to fit their needs in travelling.

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[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Sure, I'll just take the...

Oh wait, I'm in the US and they would have rather destroyed the planet than set up public transport

Oh wait again...

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Question. How did they move that sign there?

[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

In case anyone wants to correct a corrupted sign that the department of transportation hasn't gotten around to: https://www.safetysign.us/my_weblog/2011/07/instructions-on-how-to-hack-electronic-road-signs.html

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is a hack of matrix boards like these that I can 100% get behind.

[–] Styxie@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The comments on this post are such a joke. The name of the community is literally 'fuck cars' and people are getting bent out of shape because we're posting about our dislike of cars.

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[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What purpose does this serve other than alienating the people you're trying to get on your side?

You have to have the alternatives in place before you can convince people to make a change.

Buses already take hours vs. minutes and any road construction that closes stops & routes down adds time and distance to an already long commute.

If you want people to choose your option, you have to make it an option worth choosing.

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