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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Btw, rumors have been swirling about the Future of Humanity Institute shutting down(!!)--I've heard this from multiple people at this point. Does anyone have any extra info they can share with me? Off the record or in confidence would be fine. DM or email me!

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[–] titotal@awful.systems 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The future of humanity institute is the EA longtermist organisation at oxford run by swedish philosopher Nick Bostrom, who got in trouble for an old racist email and subsequent bad apology. It is the one that is rumored to be shutting down.

The Future of Life institute is the EA longtermist organisation run by swedish physicist Max Tegmarck, who got in trouble for offering to fund a neo-nazi newspaper (He didn't actually go through with it and claimed ignorance). It is the one that got the half a billion dollar windfall.

I can't imagine how you managed to conflate these two highly different institutions.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 7 months ago

my mistake! it is VERY IMPORTANT to distinguish which hat the same bunch of guys is wearing today

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago

two different ea institutes headed by swedish racists? not very efficient of them

[–] AcausalRobotGod@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah I'd find a way to cut and run if I got that kind of money. Torturing simulated rationalists is fun and all but there are better ways to be a god.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for the off-topic rant, but WTF is Emile Torres doing on twitter? Anytime I see someone creating content for that Nazi hellsite, I start looking at them differently.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

it's where the people he needs to reach are, as this tweet and its thread demonstrated. i'm there too for the same reason, feel free to block.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't know anything about the thread, as it's impossible for me to read without a twitter account. Yet another reason why the site is trash.

But by all means, go on generating content for a bigoted fascist who will use everything you write to increase engagement with his platform and give it undeserved credibility and $$$.

(And no, I won't block you.)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

iirc it costs twitter a lot of money via computing resources when you block a lot of people (this also explains why musk randomly goes on anti blocking as a concept periods, because he doesn't care ideologically, it just is expensive) so blocking a few tens of thousand people, and installing a good adblocker might make you a net negative source of cash for twitter. Not that I think it is going well with the massive amount of bots on there (including a big amount of them verified, im amazed the site is still going on).

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I run Blue Blocker and I've blocked somewhere over 200k so far, but that's just because I work hard as a hater

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I try to be more Artisinal in my blocking. I even light some candles every time I block somebody. For which I might need some help budget wise.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 7 months ago

it's a pity there is nobody here who is good with the economy