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In the 80s/90s Arnold was a huge movie star, playing huge men in both serious and comedy roles.

I guess that what I am asking is; what actor today could occupy the same kind of decade defining place as Arnold did in the 80s/90s?

They don't have to be a massive bodybuilder, but they should be the first name that anyone would think of when someone say "2010s/2020s".

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 72 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yep. The guy has a crapload of roles, from silly to more action-hero serious. I’d also toss Bautista out there, he’s pretty good and has had a good variety of roles, but Johnson wins I think just by having way more screen time.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Johnson "wins" by not being as good an actor as Bautista.

To be the heir of Arnold you must be a bit cheesy

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Drax not cheesy enough? I guess he’s just written that way.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago

I can see that.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Dwayne Johnson has definitely improved as an actor. I thought he was absolutely shit in The Mummy Returns but great in the more recent Jumanji reboots.

[–] merari42@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Dave Bautista mirrors Arnold Schwarzenegger's path from sports to cinema, where he got action movie roles because of his physique. And like Schwarzenegger, Bautista's transition into diverse acting roles showcases his versatility beyond that.

[–] daddyjones@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except Bautista is actually a very good actor and, for all I enjoyed a lot of Arnie's films, Schwarzenegger is not.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 15 points 7 months ago

You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does he take leading roles, or is he more of a supporting guy? Arnie was usually the protagonist (or antagonist in Terminator).

Bautista has been great in every role I've seen him in.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

He was the lead in My Spy. It was ok

[–] amstafff@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy, but he was also excellent in Blade Runner 2049 and the two Dune flicks.

[–] merari42@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

His character in Glass Onion is absolutely terrible, I love to hate him in it. He does such a good job with it.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What's it with people adding a "t" to his name all the time?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Damn it, I thought I had it right.

For me, not knowing Austrian pronounciation, and not realizing that the z has a clear t sound in it, so ut felt right when I did it.

Mr. Schwarzenegger, if you are reading this, I am sorry for misspelling your name.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Either The Rock or John Cena

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah. I feel like The Rock in terms of overall success, but John Cena more in that Cena's career seems more willing to take the career risks that Schwarzenegger did.

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

John Cena perhaps. The dude is crazy talented and started off as a wrestler due to his physique.

[–] JimmyChanga@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

If I'm understanding your question right, the 2010s were fairly dominated by marvel's movie machine, and RDJ was probably the stand out lead of those films, though Samuel L Jackson is the highest grossingactor of that decade i think. RdJ has now garnered the critical acclaim in the 2020s that was missing, so there's a reasonable chance RDJ could be the man you're looking for. Leo DiCaprio is the most revered critically over the same period I think, of leading men in highly rated films. Though Tom Cruise, for whatever reasons, is really the last of the real Moviestars, but his career spans over the earlier period too of the 00's and even 80s, & 90s.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lots of media theory was aimed at the depictions of men on screen in the 80s. I’d say a modern equivalent might be (hear me out….) Ryan Gosling. Start with La La Land, where he establishes himself as a guy who can sing and dance, then go through to Barbie. Sure, it’s not the muscle men of the ‘80s, but it’s a new male archetype.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly I didn't even enjoy it much but in a way the only memorable action movie I've seen in the last 2 decades was Drive.

There has been big stuff like Inception but that's more of a mind fuck movie. Everything else is a sequel or a comic book. The only others I can think of was the Accountant and the Kingsman

Where Arnold's action movies seem like an example of the 80's (at least looking back on movies at that time). Drive seems like a fit for the 2010s. Man just struggling to get by, finding it difficult to fit in, doing what he has to do. Lot more gritty and depressing.

[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I wanted to disagree with you, but checking the data almost all of the best action flicks I could have sworn were fairly recent actually came out in the early-mid noughts. Seems like after The Matrix blew up the genre, nobody ever figured out how to put it back together.

Even if I wanted to quibble and argue for ~~the best~~ my personal favorite action flicks within a precise "2 decade" window... it's a depressingly short list:

  • 2004

    • Hellboy (technically a comic movie, but I'm keeping it because Doug Jones and Ron Perlman just rocked)
    • Kill Bill Vol. 2 (Vol 1 missed the cutoff)
  • 2006

    • Crank
  • 2007

    • Hot Fuzz
  • 2009

    • The Bourne Ultimatum
    • District 9
  • 2017

    • Baby Driver

... Almost every single other action flick I thought of came out between 1998 and 2004. (Also, 2000 was a weirdly good year for action fans in retrospect)

Sigh. I'm gonna go bemoan the world getting lame and shake my cane at the kids out on my lawn.

Edit: JOHN WICK! How TF did I forget those? But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it now.