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Then they could just go off phone numbers.
Signal just introduced a new feature to obscure phone numbers behind usernames
This is why metadata matters so much. Plenty of "end-to-end encrypted" apps only handle the content of messages, but know on the server side what people are in what places. Or even keep a historical record of who joined and left. Or just don't bother encrypting...
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Israel aimed to spark a regional conflict to avoid facing genocide allegations. However, Iran didn't buy into their PR tactics.
What group currently calling Jihad against Israel has not openly recieved funding from the Iranian state, going back to 1992?
The answer is none. Every group calling for Jihad and Jewish genocide in the region has received monetary support from Iran.
Why is that?
Because Israel and Iran are enemies and have been in a state of semi-war for ages? And because Israel is an Apartheid state whose raison d'etre is ethnic cleansing?
So Iran can fund jihad against Judaism itself, and it's Israel's fault?
Talking about the "initial fault" in this conflict is moot. We're at a point, where both sides can reasonably point to some events in the past and blame the other side for the conflict.
Fact is, Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and its allies are religious fanatic militias, while Israel is a liberal democracy, supported by pretty much all of The West™. Of course the expectations towards Israel regarding human rights and international law are slightly higher. And let's be honest, what Israel is doing right now is certainly not helping calming the situation, or even making long term peace.
I don't know if I fully buy that argument.
If somebody supports Israel, they are supporting a genocide based on perceived land needs of the Israeli people.
If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.
I don't think we can get anywhere unless all of us as leftists acknowledge that the Jews of Israel will be in the same position the people of Palestine are in right now if we don't thread the needle of support and guess what? We are not fucking threading that needle.
If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.
What? No significant player in Palestine is trying to do that.
If we pretend the "elected" government of Palestine is in significant than sure.
Uh... Hamas has tried to make peace with Israel before. Multiple times. Including two attempts to hand over Gaza to the PA and start peace negotiations. Israel has refused all of them.
Hamas killed all the PA in Gaza after the takeover in 2006. when did they ever attempt to give gaza back?
Israel was literally funding Hamas in order to drive a wedge between Palestinians and stop chances of a unified leadership arising. Netanyahu admitted to as much. It is an Israeli media source, inb4 muh bias.
the real reason he bribed them was to buy quite to appear as someone who is "strong against terorrism"
about the funding, so i guess hamas had no choice but to murder people in order to recieve more money. after all its not like they recieve millions in aid from all over world, the only funding is bibi so he gets to tell them how to act and who to kill
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So first, "Hamas killed all the PA in Gaza" ignores that it was the PA trying to overturn the result of democratic elections. Not saying Hamas didn't do fucked up things either, but let's not forget how it happened.
That said, there were many efforts for reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah. You'll notice a theme of Israeli opposition to all of these.
nothing like throwing people off of roofs to show how democratic you are
israel being against reconcilliation does not effect hamas, they did it because they wanted to.
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while Israel is a liberal democracy, supported by pretty much all of The West™.
Man Israel has more than 5 million people under an occupation that denies them any and all human rights. They're not a liberal democracy in any stretch of the word.
Israel is an authoritarian state, they throw people in jail for disagreeing with the government, or just being Palestinian / Muslim.
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Literally yes. The state of anti-Semitism in the middle east is a direct cause of Israeli Apartheid.
You think hatred of Jews among Muslims started after the creation of Israel?
That is ahistorical nonsense, and you know it.
Do you wish to try again?
You think hatred of Jews among Muslims started after the creation of Israel?
Not after the creation of Israel, after Zionists started trying to take Palestine in 1917.
Conveniently ignoring about a thousand years of history there, little buddy.
Conveniently ignoring about a thousand years of history there, little buddy.
Go on, what's that history?
There were 300,000 Jews there when tbs Mamluks took power and 5,000 when the Ottomans took power.
What happened? Did the Jews disappear?
You can literally look up what happened on Wikipedia, but the short of it is Mongol invasions and Mamluk misrule. I mean two thirds of the population left, that shit got everyone (though it admittedly got Jews and Christians more). Then it was victim to more Ottoman misrule. Not saying these are good things, but speaking as a Muslim Middle Eastern guy the scathing hatred for Jews in the modern Middle East is unlike anything from before the 20th century, and the stereotypes you'll usually see (mainly the deceptive Jew that can't be trusted to hold a promise and Jews controlling the world) are direct results of Zionist actions.
Where do you get the 300,000 figure?
A quick read through Wikipedia showed significantly lower number.
Prior to the Muslim conquest of Palestine (635–640), Palaestina Prima had a population of 700,000, of which around 100,000 were Jews and 30-80,000 were Samaritans,[67] with the remainder being Chalcedonian and Miaphysite Christians.[5][68][69]
The pace of conversion to Islam among the Christian, Jewish, and Samaritan communities in Palestine varied during the early period (638–1098),[70] and opinions vary regarding the extent of Islamization during the early Islamic period.[71] While some argue Palestine was already majority Muslim by the time of arrival of the First Crusade, others contend that Christians were still in the majority and the process of mass adoption of Islam took place only from the 13th century onwards, during the Mamluk period.[71]
I got my number from the same article, under the Mamluk portion.
Are we totally going to ignore the fact that the Mamluks and other Turks were foreigners who only had Islam to try to bond with the region they were taking over. It's not like it was Levantine Jews vs Levantine Muslims.
It's a lot like how the US helps Israel because it has the same western values despite religion.
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And Iran is not an apartheid state?
Uh yes? Iran is oppressive as fuck, but yeah they're not an Apartheid state, and hell even if they were. At least Iranian women get citizenship and the right to a fair-ish trial.
Bro gtfo, kurds have suffered under Iranian regime for more than a century, israel palestine conflict doesn't even come close.
Yeah you get the fair trail as long as your aren't kurd.
israel palestine conflict doesn’t even come close
Man we have a genocide going on in Gaza.
Admittedly I don't know much about the state of Kurds in Iran, but again we have a literal genocide in Gaza. What little I have read doesn't mention anything that intense in Iran.
I'm not denying the ongoing genocide, but acting like Iran is some kind of good faith actor in the region is total bullshit.
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that's is basically Israel strategy. Don't know on what ground you're getting downvoted.
Israel wants to involve the US into the conflict, to create the perceptive diversion when it moves into Rafah and continue towards their goals. However, Iran took the necessary steps, e.g. informing the US in advance their course of actions, so that the US won't be forced into the conflict.
That's basically what happened. The US keep themselves out, Iran gets to retaliate while keeping a distance from the US, and Israel will be on their own should it moves forward to Rafah.
Exactly. I’m waiting for the ICJ ruling that will hold Israel and its allies accountable for genocide. Israel was never about Jews. It’s funny Jews standing for Palestine get called antisemitic pathetic!
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That's a lot of speculation. I'd like to learn the truth.
What speculation?
The +972 article clearly mentioned Lavender using "being in WhatsApp groups" as a variable to designate targets.
Zuckerberg donating 125K to Zaka (the 40 beheaded babies propaganda group) and his other top Meta staff being massive Zionists living in israel is a rather direct link.
Hmm. I mean it's an article citing another article, citing a book published under a pen name which seems to include a guide which says using WhatsApp groups could be an example of an information source...
Sounds more like Chinese whispers to me than journalism. I'm a bit cautious since everyone has strong opinions and lots of people spread misinformation... The donation certainly is an interesting fact. I'm not saying it's necessarily false. But also not enough to convince me.
Yeah and israel just coincidentally bombs 200 aid worker and keeps bombing family homes.
The +972 article perfectly explains what is going on in Gaza right now. Also they are a pretty reliable source for left Israeli news if it's not Zionist propaganda writers publishing.
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I'm starting to get the impression that israel is up to no good at all.
It's cool.
America is the big brother shielding them from consequence.
Israel will be just fine.
It is beyond obscene and makes Meta complicit in Israel's killings of "pre-crime" targets and their families, in violation of International Humanitarian Law and Meta's publicly stated commitment to human rights.
I mean if true - and it likely is - then this would be the third genocide Meta is implicated in, by my count, (Rohingya, Tigray) and there may be others they haven't been called out for yet.
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