Implicitly converting anything anywhere is always a bad idea, especially when it can't be done in a lossless way.
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There could be an option to auto convert to PNG. I wouldn't want anything auto converted to a lossy format like JPEG.
Lossless webp to lossless JXL
When I save an image, I want the exact same binary 1:1, not a recompressed one or whatever, I want the original picture, be it jpeg/png/webp, every graphics program can open webp, nothing wrong with it.
At least if you hate webp, convert them to png, but not jpeg...
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Did they intend to tag an official Firefox account or something? I'm not sure how this works on the Mastadon side of things.
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yes
webp is a great format though...
Too bad so many platforms are not compatible with it. I am constantly having to convert the image type to post the image.
thats on the platforms not the format
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Exactly, great quality and small file sizes. Perfect to reduce web bloat, or loading times when using things like FoundryVTT
Not really. It is better than shitty JPEG encoders but not really much better than good ones. It's lossless was fairly good but still barely worth it. Really we should chuck it for JPEG XL but Google is strong-arming it for unknown reasons.
jpegxl should be the successor, granted - but that doesn't make webp any less good
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Google is strong-arming it for unknown reasons.
lol. Yeah it’s a mystery.
Okay all the hate about webp or jpg aside: This should at most be an add-on not a core FF feature. And it also is: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/save-webp-as-png-or-jpeg/
Sounds more like a problem with their intended usage pipeline, like an image viewer or word processing app problem.
WebP images are not bad. Not great, but not bad. The lossless mode is quite good. It is on the software you use to support WebP.
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It's not really Firefox's task or problem to convert files from one format to the other, why would it be?
Why is it that the url ends in .JPG but when I right click and save image I can only save it as a .webp?
Some CDNs like Akamai and Cloudflare have options to optimize images. We use the Akamai one where I work. It means our creative teams, customers, etc. don’t need to worry too much about whether an image is properly optimized when they upload it. Akamai will, behind the scenes optimize the quality, color palette, and image type (jpg, web, png, etc) and create a number of different versions of the images. Then when a client requests the image Akamai looks at the client device (mobile vs desktop, screen resolution, browser version, etc) and serves the copy of the image that’s best optimized for that device.
So even if the URL ends with .jpg you might be sent a .webp. If you use the browsers developer tool to inspect the response headers you’ll likely see the Content-Type header says it’s .webp as well.
Because the URL is lying, and the image is not a jpg.
There is an addon to request jpeg. But converting lossy...why?
Shouldn't we strive for webp compatibility in more applications so it can be viewed readily and easily?
Sure. And then use formats that are good enough that have broad support.
Attack the problem from both sides.
I mean Gwenview, GIMP and tons of other apps support it. I dont know an app that doesnt support it actually
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What are you using that can't handle webp by now?
Facebook Messenger on android. I hate messenger but that's where my Luddite family hangs out. Often have to convert the webp meme I downloaded from lemmy first.
Ouch. Keep up, meta.
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only a kludge, not a fix: Don’t Accept image/webp
I might have to try that. I've been using Save webP as, though I'm not sure it's exactly what OP is asking. I like that it also does animated webp conversion.
This post is why we can’t have nice things
fortunately, since you use Firefox, there are a handful of extensions available just for this problem already. Maybe not for the drag n drop, though...
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Webpee is more Google shit being forced down our throats. They absolutely will eventually phase out all other graphic formats on Chrome. These giant tech companies are breaking the Web and this is just another example of them throwing their weight around.
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I prefer PNG because of losless-nes (is that right?). If it's jpeg, or webp originally, i don't mind getting the image in that format. But converting/recompression is bad.
It should be spelt "losslessness". "lossless" is an adjective and when you add "-ness" to an adjective it becomes a noun.
I prefer PNG because it losslessly compresses raster images.
I prefer PNG because it uses a lossless algorithm.
I prefer PNG because I love losslessness.
After turning the word into a noun though, you'll need to know how to turn it back into an adjective. We use "-less" to turn the noun into an adjective.
I prefer PNG because it losslessnesslessly compresses raster images.
I prefer PNG because it uses a losslessnessless algorithm.
I prefer PNG because I love losslessnesslessness.
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