Sadly yes
AuroraSine
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts so openly. Sorry my message came off as "low energy" to you. But to me, it still holds up logically. Google makes money mostly from ads and our data. The more people boycott their products, the less funding goes to things like Project Nimbus. De-googled setups, a phone, an app, a browser, give me hope. This isn't just about privacy for me, it's about human rights! And i hope ther will coming more Alternatives.
Again: Thanks for sharing your openion so openly.
That's great to hear. Good luck! I wish I could de-Google my family too.
I'm currently testing /e/OS from Murena myself, but on a Fairphone 6, not a Murena device. The system itself is fine. Takes some getting used to, but no problem. Hope you enjoy it =D
You make a good point. And its so true. I know a lot of people who also dont care about Google Problems.
I'm just familiar with /e/OS so far. I've disabled microG and don't use a single Google app. But I can't judge the people who using it. The problem is really the ecosystem. Many companies build on Google, which means they're not independent. The End result is : There are no real alternatives. So people only know Google and nothing else
Hey, honestly I don't know much about GrapheneOS. I only know it's available for Google Pixels. But you're right. All Google-certified devices will be 'locked down!'
Hey. I'm trying to see everything positively though. I know its sucks, and im angry too. But how secure can a Google-certified device be AGAINST GOOGLE anyway? I could only deactivate the systems, which is why I wanted to buy an /e/OS device. And the news from F-Droid that Google was going to pull this shit was the kick in the ass I needed to finally buy a Fairphone with /e/OS.
I believe you may mean Darth Vader.....
😅You're right. Thanks for the correction!
You have a good point. I also know many of people who have no clue about this. I talked a lot about this but they dont care. Anyway for me, every setback, even if it's just a brief blip for Google is a triumph. Of course , a longer triumph will be great, but yeah.. that is just my openion. And thanks again, for the Darth Vader Correction 👍🏻
Is there a program or a way to tell what apps currently on ones phone will be affected by this?
Hi.
As far as I know, there is no program with which you can check this.
But, I know that for example F-Droid apps on Google-certified devices will no longer be usable, because these apps are not registered in the Play Store. According to the KeepAndroidOpen page, this will no longer work.
I want to add: According to the Samsung Galaxy Store Seller Portal, apps that are already installed will remain usable, just without updates.
Hopes, that helped.
Upgrading Lumo is really great. For me, it's a wonderful alternative to ChatGPT. However, I have a question regarding the web search feature. Which index are you using? I boycott big tech companies and don't want to send data to their servers, even not anonymously! I contacted the Proton support team, and they assured me that you don't use Google or Bing APIs and that Proton is experimenting with Mojeek, Brave, and Kagi. But Kagi is a meta-search engine that, as far as I know, accesses Google. I'm therefore confused. An answer would be appreciated. Thanks
Hello. That connection thing is cool. So I have no experience with meta-search engines. I gave up on Brave after I learned that it's hosted on AWS. My only search engine is Mojeek because it's not hosted on big tech like, Azure AWS, or Google Cloud.
🖐🏻I using Mojeek.
WOW! That's impressive
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Peace be with you, Proton Community, 🌹
I was trying to find out which search engine Lumo uses in the background. To do this, I used the official contact form here: https://proton.me/support/contact?topic=lumo.
Unfortunately, I later realized that the official site lists "protonmail.zendesk", not "protonme.zendesk". The domain "protonme.zendesk" looks suspicious, and many sites online report it as a phishing attempt.
I have already taken security precautions on my end, but I want to be absolutely sure before I report this domain as malicious. Has anyone else seen this? Please let me know if you think this is phishing. And i hope you can answer my question about the search engine 😁
Thanks for the help.
UPDATE 30.06.2026: The domain is real! I checked it with a new account and another Wi-Fi connection. It's not a "phishing attack", so I am happy.
But Kagi makes me nervous. I only just found out that they uses Google. So I don't understand why the Proton support team said "There is no Google connection". Maybe Kagi doesn't use Google anymore. I don't know. Whatever.
Thanks to everyone who wrote back, and sorry if I wasted your time. But I didn't want to publish false information on my website about Lumo's web search. Thanks again.
And by the way, Lumo just got an update where it can generate images.
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I can't really say anything about that, sorry. I'm not familiar with GrapheneOS or Google Pixel. As far as I know, Play Services can apparently be installed in a sandbox?.... but I didn't quite get it either. So I can't say whether the system will be affected by Google's rules. Sorry I can't help further.