DreitonLullaby

joined 8 months ago
[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Good on you. I plan to pay for Mullvad VPN too when I can afford it again; with Monero too. Didn't know it had an internal ad-blocker for mobile though, that's awesome.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

It doesn't force recommendations on you, and channels you don't like can be muted or blocked. I've only blocked a handful of channels (Most of them were synced from YT too). Than there are sections: if you only want to see content you like to see, use the respective sections. If you want to see technology content, you aren't going to click on the spirituality section.

Furthermore, recommendations aren't actually a free feature (yet), as it's still in early access and comes with Premium. 99.99% of the people who are upset about the "recommended content" being stuff they strongly dislike aren't actually even being recommended anything to begin with. The videos that appear on the side are "Related" videos. Their system for determining related videos isn't extremely comprehensive yet, so some other random content can slip through the cracks. For example, I was listening to a no-copyright music track called Icelanding Arpeggios, and I was shown a "Related" video along the side; a video synced from YouTube, which was of a man's voice reading aloud Psalm 4 of the Old Testament with Icelanding Arpeggios playing in the background. The reason it was classified as "Related" wasn't because some system was able to listen to the music in the video, but because the exact words "Icelanding Arpeggios" appeared in the description of said video about that Psalm. Here's an example of "Related" suggestions. In this case they are working well and as intended, showing more video's related to Solid-State batteries.

So the current unfortunate reality is that a video about, for example, how gravity works, occasionally may suggest "Related" content on the side about gravity not being real, that the earth is flat, and that the sun is 3,000 miles in the sky. Because, you know, it's about the sun and gravity. The video's are technically related in some way, but most people who are learning about the universe don't want to see that, because it has no real scientific basis, is not widely accepted, and gravity and the ball earth has already been proven to be true.

After all, Odysee is still being developed, and their system's for suggested "Related" content is still not fully matured.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Nice! Yeah, I use LibreWolf too and never saw them. I started using the mobile app recently which didn't block ads though. I found them a bit annoying because the mobile app is very unoptimised atm, so the ads being there just made things worse.

The way they worked previously was that they would appear in the apps interface. They wouldn't play within the video's themselves, and a small advertisement would pop up at the bottom of the screen which you could cross-off manually.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago

PeerTube is great too

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Something I need to improve in my writing, I guess. Thanks.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

I’m sorry to be the guy that tried to ruin your party, but “if we collectively…”… How many people are you talking about?

100, 1000, 10000, 100000 ?

As many people as are willing to do it. If you're not; that's fine; I'm not telling anyone they have to; it's just an encouragement.

Syncing is an alternative as long as it doesn’t mean that a view pays less on Odyssee than on YouTube. If it does, then the creator would not gain anything, just kidding income.

Syncing is up to the YouTuber, it's not hard to do, and requires no channel management after initially set up. They may not have a reason, depending on who they are, but it's better to get some people on board with it than none.

What is your selling argument for a YouTube creator with 100000 views on average to move to Odyssee?

There is no "selling" point other than that it's easy to set up and may earn them some extra cash, even if it's not much in comparison to their YouTube pay. Other than that, there's the fact that YouTube false copyright claims videos all the time, and if the YouTuber can't get their video back up, their viewers can still at least view it through Odysee where the synced video did not get removed. If the channel is automatically taken down by false copyright issues, as has happened before, the video's aren't suddenly lost forever. Not all YouTubers keep a backup of all their videos on their own drives, and if their channel is taken down completely, "bye bye content". I'm not trying to say that these reasons are much for most YouTubers, but with dozens of millions of YouTubers out there making good money, there are bound to be at least hundreds of thousands of them who would sync with Odysee if they knew about it.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What are you quoting? I didn't say any of that.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They don't need to leave YouTube at all. That's because Odysee provides a YouTube sync feature, that syncs every upload from YouTube with the Odysee channel. They can set the sync and never touch Odysee again if they want to. Plus, if we collectively ask our favourite YouTubers to join Odysee, and actually make them realise that Odysee exists, more of them will eventually join. Once more have joined, it will be easier to convince even more YouTubers to join again. The cycle continues, and Odysee grows.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The point of the post is that Odysee no longer has ads. I'm not trying to say you needed the subscription to remove ads. That's how it was previously, until today. Free users don't see ads anymore.

The difference between YouTube Premium and Odysee Premium is mainly in it's reason for existing. YouTube Premium exists for the sole purpose of providing features that used to be free, with some extra things that most people don't givea hoot about and never use; and, you know... to make themselves richer. It exists so that people buy it for the value it specifically brings them.

So essentially; people buy YouTube premium for the features, while people buy Odysee Premium to support the growth of the platform, help fund the platform, and support free speech. The extra features they get are just a little bonus as thanks. Not only that, but the features Odysee provides are "Early-Access" features, which means that most, if not all of those features will become available for free users eventually. At that point, I'm not sure what Odysee Premium will provide if all the features become free; they'll have to figure something else out to give it more incentive. But as it currently stands, Odysee Premium is more like a donation than a service; which gives you extra features as thanks.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pretty much. Lets also kick all the Nazi's outta the planet while we're at it. Then will people see free speech as a good thing?

Oh wait, no they won't, because they don't agree with some rando on the other side of the planet who's saying that chemicals in the water turn the frogs gay. Let's not converse with them and determine whether its true or not; lets just exclude them from everything in society for saying something I disagree with and keep listening only to the voices echoing around us.

I hope people truly think about what I'm trying to point out.

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