FirstCircle

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[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the well-written, thoughtful reply.

I'm not convinced by the "poor representation" argument though. Every democracy I've ever heard of has some kind of "proportional representation" baked-in to it which rather naturally means that regions with gazillions of people in them will get more legislative attention than regions that are sparsely populated. How else would one organize it that would give farmers and other rural dwellers an equal voice as all those city folk? Allocation of representation by square mileage? Maybe there are tweaks that are being done, or that could be done, but I haven't given the issue a lot of thought, maybe because I come from a tiny little state (both pop. & land area) and it's pretty much understood we wouldn't have the clout in D.C. that, say, MA would have, and that always seemed like "well of course, how else would it work and still be fair?" even if we were overlooked or, as you say "got the shaft" intermittently.

If people in E. WA were so concerned about not getting represented, maybe they could look to the kind of people they consistently elect. For example, CMR, who never met an orange ass she didn't want to kiss but has done virtually nothing of note over her long time in office. Then there's the premium Christofascist and domestic terrorist Matt Shea.

An investigative report commissioned by the House, issued on December 1, 2019, found that Shea "participated in an act of domestic terrorism against the United States", organized and supported "three armed conflicts of political violence", and advocated replacing the government with a theocracy and "the killing of all males who do not agree." A former ally of Shea provided documents showing that Shea and his supporters were planning to seize control of the region after the outbreak of civil war, installing Shea as governmental leader in order to institute "constitutional changes" to "sanctify to Jesus Christ".

And finally, off the top of my head, there's the soon-to-be-former-mayor of Spokane Nadine Woodward who's done fuck-all in office but is happy to cozy up on stage in public with the likes of Shea and others of his ilk. You're saying that E. WA is wanting "good" representation, but look at who voters are electing, over and over again. Are they electing them for promising to go up against Big Ag Tech on behalf of farmers? I think not.

I'd love to find out that it was true that these right-wing secessionist-type fantasies were motivated mostly by sensible economic concerns (like right-to-repair, which I'm totally in favor of from what (little) I know of it) and environmental protection concerns (i.e. scientific management of water supplies with the good of the people and not corporate profits in mind, and with an front-and-center acknowledgment of anthropogenic global warming, including global warming contributed to, potentially, by farming practices - again not my area of expertise). I'd love to hear that, in the eyes of the aggrieved secessionists in the PNW, it's 110% fine for old Tim and Jim to hook up down in, say, Rockford, and live happy lives together, but instead what we get is domestic terrorism at "gay friendly" churches.

As you say, the secessionists are primarily, as far as I can tell, E.OR/E.WA/ID Christofascists looking to establish a theocracy. If they were just regular, non-theocratic, non-totalitarian, anti-book-ban, pro-science, thoughtful people who weren't dripping with hatred about Those (other) People, I might be be able to listen to them and reason with them and those allegedly-"over represented" people in the west might be happy to do the same. As it stands now though, they're just seditionists who are hoping to "get ahead" through violence and intimidation.

Notes:

  • The very idea of re-drawing these state boundaries seems unworkable in a great many ways, but if one were to think about it, I wonder how the seditionists would propose to treat all the Natives and their lands? What if the tribes were to give the new state idea a thumbs-down, which I could easily imagine happening. Would the seditionists advocate taking tribal lands by force (again)?
  • I've lived in WA state since 1990 and E. WA for the last 20 yrs.
[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I take issue with there being "merit" to the idea. That would depend on what you consider meritorious. Is there more (or less?) merit to lumping all yer hillbillies and rednecks and racists and Christian fascists into fewer and larger geographically contiguous regions/governments? Why? Efficiency? What kind of efficiency? W/o all the tax dollars generated along the I-5 corridor this hypothetical state would have an economy running on fumes from the very start. Efficiency in achieving that elsewhere-mentioned Handmaid's Tale perfect society? OK I'll give you that maybe.

It might be meritorious in my view (though highly debatable) for the crazy backwards eastern PNW (namely ID) to be brought under the control of Olympia and/or Salem and thereby civilized, but, funny, this crowd I'm referring to isn't talking about that, at all.

See also: the proposed State of Jefferson

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was thinking something like this too when I first read the article. Around here, the right-wing mayor (a short-timer now thankfully) was pushing for the cops to be able to do homeless "sweeps" of "encampments", something that I've little doubt has, and will, lead to serious roughing-up (maybe even murdering...?) of homeless who look at the cops the wrong way or give any backtalk or don't 110% "comply" immediately if not sooner... . Hell around here a cop just beat the shit out of a guy (busting ribs and much more) who was simply taking a quick nap in his car in a public park parking lot, because he thought himself too tired to drive safely at that time.

The authorities around here pay attention to the homeless when it's time for a little violent action (fun!) but that's about it. So I too am surprised these LV ones are jumping on this incident. It would be a great thing if they were vigorously pursuing solving crimes against the homeless, but I've gotta wonder ... seems awfully unlikely.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

"Unhoused" kind of rubs me the wrong way too, mainly because, in my opinion, it's such a blatant (and not exactly genius) manipulation of language to, as you say, "destigmatize" the Other word. The Other word comes with mental images of dirty bums and mental illness and drug addiction and petty criminals and ... whereas "unhoused" people ... well, that sounds like just an ordinary person without a house! Someone w/o a house doesn't necessarily need expensive social supports like health care and food and training/education and [obviously] housing. A much more palatable and low-baggage term, no? Oy.

But I'm easily annoyed at all this kind of re-terming, and it's everywhere. Among the most irritating is "Anthropogenic global warming" becoming "climate change" ... notice how that eliminates all blame from the term, and furthermore no longer indicates which direction temps are moving in. Even worse is that my fellow lefties say "climate change" now w/o a second thought to the origin of the phrase (right-wing propagandists) or the motives behind its creation (corporate profits).

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Actually...there is a group of nutters who have a fantasy of doing something like that but with ID+eastern OR (possibly eastern WA too). They get in the news now and then.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, but now the shooter [who I will assume is a right-wing MAGA-nutjob of some variety] owns those people he shot! They've been dominated, humiliated, taught who's the boss, and all for the cost of a couple of rounds of ammo.

Losers like this shooter (and that one in Burlington VT recently) don't have the skills/resources/intelligence to make any more impressive impact on the world. Cheap/easy violence is all they can muster. Pathetic.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heh, understood, I moved away many decades ago myself. That reminds me, when I was a kid there, gun laws were extremely lax. I was allowed to buy rifles and shotguns from retail stores as a young teenager, didn't even need a parent present. Not sure what the deal would have been with handguns. I remember taking a gun safety class put on by the police but I don't think that was a legal requirement, probably just a Dad requirement. Wonder what's changed, wouldn't be surprised if the answer is "not much".

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Update: they've caught someone who seems to be the perp.

Court records show Awartani was hit in the spine

Ugh, that sound like potentially one of those "never walk again" sorts of injuries. Then again, it's not safe to walk, at least not outside, and while not looking like a member of the ethnic/cultural majority...

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think you should pitch your keffiyeh idea to Darn Tough Vermont, get hired ("VP of Keffiyeh" on your door) and get into production as soon as possible. Their socks really are incredible - had a pair for hiking for 15-20yrs now and only recently did they finally get some wear holes - will return them and should get a free replacement per the warranty. I wouldn't be surprised if whatever they're made out of would stop bullets in addition to keeping the wearer warm. With domestic terrorism/hate-crimes/gun-violence on the increase nation-wide, this (DT Keffiyeh) could be the 2024 product of the year! Brilliant. Enjoy Northfield. :-)

But idiots shooting citizens and residents (or anyone for that matter) due to ethnic or religious heritage is unacceptable, so if we normalize wearing them, maybe people they won’t get targeted at much.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Maybe I’ll have to get a kuffiyeh. I usually don’t like appropriating other cultures, but maybe raising awareness is fine.

What a great idea! Imagine if wearing them caught on & became fashionable both for their looks and as a political statement! The fascist crowd here (USA) would go ape-shit. They'd be talking about banning them in public in no time flat.

Another article. Yeah, I could see keffiyehs gaining a following (see linked pic) - winters in VT are fargin' cold.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile the POs around here have signs up all over begging people to apply for PO jobs....

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