Nahvi

joined 1 year ago
[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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Weekly instance defederation talk loaded with emotional/psychological manipulation, moral grandstanding, and why not, some bullying.

This is why I log into this instance's account less and less. Every time I come here, there is someone trying to get another instance defederated; usually because they saw a few posts they didn't like from a single community on that instance. Rather than banning that community, they think the whole instance should be defederated.

Also, I think you hit it right on the nose with the bits about McCarthism and the Paradox of Tolerance. It seems the internet has forgot the danger of the Red Scares, and makes me wonder if the left-wing version will be named and taught in classrooms in the future.

Though it would definitely be easy for reddit or alphabet soup agencies to use these kinds of tactics to destabilize competition or hard to control entities, I don't think it is necessary at all. It seems to just be human nature to suppress and dehumanize those we disagree with. It is an easy way to justify what people want to do anyways.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Laces wear out over time too. Also, nicer velcro is sold, though I have no idea if it lasts longer.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not too worried about the technical difficulties of hosting an instance, but I really don't want to deal with the social ones. I would rather sit back and appreciate @TheDave for the trouble he and the other admins go through.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I want to blow off this comment with something like, "zealots will be zealots", that first link reads almost like a fantasy novel description of cartoon bad guys. It is a bit weird seeing it laid out like that, and that is from someone who spent a bit too much time in church during my late teens.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I will have to check them out later. I am almost a bit surprised that I don't recognize SDF. I spent some time using a few telnet sites some years ago.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

@TheDude

Hello and thank you for taking the time to respond to my post.

I appreciate you clarifying your stance on future blocking for both personal reasons and along the human decency lines. While I may lean fairly deeply into free speech territory, I also recognize the need for certain limits. The balance you've struck seems to be very reasonable, though I admit to being a hair surprised by the community driven approach.

I look forward to seeing which direction the community takes the instance.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is interesting.

Edited since I mixed up which comments were for which poll.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

When I skimmed the announcement where he created the Agora, I missed that part completely. I thought it was just about people donating. Based on the link in the post, I thought he was making all these decisions himself while maybe considering input from others.

Doesn't seem like there is much point in DMing him now.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

That makes sense and I probably should have considered it more, though I also thought it would be useful if the response was public. Since I went searching for it myself, I thought other new users might do the same.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Turns out that I completely misunderstood the community structure here. There is a good chance that I was the one being confusing.

[–] Nahvi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that I know who you are, I have checked out The Agora and a lot of what you are saying has a bit more context. It seems I posted this in the wrong place and misunderstood the community structure here.

Thank you for your time responding. Once I spend a bit more time looking through The Agora, I may end up asking another question or two.

 

EDIT: It seems that I have may have gotten the wrong impression about the community structure here from the @TheDude comment I listed below. It looks like this should have been posted to The Agora. I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond. Now I must go find fresh air and see if I can find this grass thing that I have heard so much about.

First, let me say thank you for spending your time and money on creating and maintaining this instance.

Second, the name sh.itjust.works is great. It gives me a little half smile every time I type it.

Third, I am hoping this can be my Fediverse home base but I have a single concern.

Now on to the meat:

I have been over on lemmy.world for the last few days and really enjoying the content and experience, but as I was learning more about the Fediverse I realized they have blocked a whole slew of other instances. Most of the reason I have grown to dislike and distrust reddit over the years was because of their random subreddit bans that didn't follow their own rules and processes, so it was a pretty big turn-off for me looking at the lemmy.world Instances List.

When I heard this instance only had two blocked instances, I immediately came here to check it out. I quickly saw like-minded individuals genuinely engaging in reasonable discussion about what should and should not be defederated, so I decided to go ahead and make an account. It didn't take long though before I decided to look into why each of the instances were banned.

It seems like burggit allows simulated CP which is a pretty decent reason for blocking them in my mind. On the other hand, the only thing I could find about lemmygrad.ml was this (https://sh.itjust.works/comment/130474) post that says you blocked it because of your personal convictions.

Given that this instance is your own personal project, I certainly don't fault you for choosing what is acceptable and what is not, but I am concerned about making sh.itjust.works my home base if it is just the start. Based on the previous post it doesn't seem like something you are going to change your mind about, nor do I have an interest in trying to convince you to do so. What I would like to know is if this is going to be a regular thing.

Are you intending to block any instances with political opinions that you are staunchly against? Further, are you planning to create any sort of standard for what kind of instance you are likely or unlikely to ban in the future?

Bonus question for my curiosity: What makes lemmygrad so against your personal convictions? While I have a basic understanding of Marxism/Communism and am aware that current communist countries have a pretty questionable history of violence and suppressing personal and political freedoms, I think an objective viewer might say the same thing about the representative republic that I live in.

tl;dr: Are you going to block other instances for personal reasons? Also, are you going to create any standards to indicate which instances may be blocked in the future?

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