Rangelus

"Emotional support ute"

That is good news!

Don't be a dick mate, it doesn't help you make your point.

I know many tradies mate, they all use vans except one, and he complains constantly about his Ute.

I also make deliveries, would never use a Ute. Van is the way to go.

Besides, none of this addresses the point. None of the ones I'm talking about are not trade/family vehicles. I see mum's dropping kids off, bank people and REAs driving to a showing all the time. None of these need a massive fucking Ute that never carries anything or goes off-road.

Mate I can't help that I'm a townie, but so many Utes never see an ounce of dirt.

I didn't say they didn't have their uses anyway, just that far too many on our roads are completely pointless. They are strictly worse tradie vehicles and make rubbish everyday cars.

You have to admit this is a bit much from the party that claimed no new taxes or increase in fuel tax, right?

ETA: also Ute are fucking stupid for the main thing I seem them being used for: driving the kids to school, and driving the REA to his office.

It convinced me. But then I'm capable of extrapolating trends between counties.

It's clear though: large vehicles save the occupants but kill others at a higher rate.

I gotta say I don't. I've read and watched a bit since this all started blowing up, and I think a partnership is the appropriate solution.

But then personally I don't think anything bad will come from it, at least so far as I've seen. Of course I'm open to changing my mind about this. I used to advocate for a 4 year term but I have since been convinced that, with the current political system we have, it would do more harm than good.

But then I guess I'm just a bleeding heart liberal lol 😂

You've got to go by the Te Reo version, though. That was the version produced first, and the version signed my most Iwi. The English version was a translation of the Te Reo, signed by a small fraction of the Iwi, and is considered the secondary version.

It is pretty consistently agreed that the Iwi at the time did not think they were giving up rights to givern their land, treasures and people.

Edit: ~~also the "some of the most dangerous arguments" comment is pretty silly really. The Maori aren't coming to steal your stuff, they just want a return to the rights they believe they retained when they signed the treaty. They aren't even giving governing positions on water boards under the old 3 waters, they were advisory boards. It's really not bad at all.~~

Sorry, misread your comment.

I'm curious about your view on treaty partnership and acknowledging Maori as one of the treaty partners. In my view the treaty is not political at all, but a legal document signed between Iwi and the Crown, which has sadly been ignored for much of New Zealand's history.

Dunno mate. You'd have to ask jernos.

I'll be honest tho, I don't really have a problem with it anyway. I'm fine with giving Maori culture a bit of a boost in the mainstream - no skin off my nose, I still get everything I had before, and if it helps promote the other major part of New Zealand, all the better!

I am under the impression that funding was never tied to Te Tiriti etc, just that the news corps were asked to factor that in when making reports. It was an ask, or a suggestion, but in no way tied to any level of funding.