How are we all feeling about him now?
How do you want to find out how your solar investment is performing?
People that want to monitor their performance from the office.
Yeah, not wrong. You wonder if any of them even enjoy football as a sport.
Croatia I believe
I enjoy pyro, but pyro brings a hooligan culture. It's about finding that balance which I think we do well here in Australia.
There's romanticism with trying to like the euro ultra life amongst some groups here but imagine being caged like an animal just for being an away fan.
This link speaks a bit to what I've been saying.
That being said a lot of what I've discussed is covered in both Turnbull's unauthorised biography and his memoirs, but I can't expect you to go and read those. But that link touches a bit on just what sort of battle he was facing even in cabinet. Without Turnbull, the NEG would have included 5 billion investment in coal fired plants. Sometimes it's about what you don't do that easily gets overlooked.
I won't touch the LNP NBN roll out as that's not what I was referring to and we don't need another tangent.
You said he "influenced" them so much that they got rid of him. You're implying that his stance wasn't conducive to their ideology so they removed him as their leader. He lost the party room because he tried to introduce the NEG, he refused to butcher the policy by funding coal fired plants. He didn't succeed, but he did the best any liberal leader could amongst one of the most aggressively right wing eras in Australian politics.
What are you expecting me to quote on SH 2.0, you've claimed it was worse than the NBN but haven't backed up legitimate reasons why? Because it's expensive and went over budget? The original NBN quote was expensive, and you'd be to be highly optimistic if it stayed on budget and was delivered in time, it's a government project afterall.
Do you need links?
So you've quoted an article that complains about the cost of SH 2.0 and another that complains that it's delayed (name an infrastructure project that isn't delayed or over budget). But neither of those refute the projects long term benefit as a renewable energy source. Moving on, you've made moot points, congrats.
At least you admit he was working on a positive climate policy and lost his job because of it. Both sides of the debate now agree he was doing what he could.
You've obviously come from /r/Australia because they certainly had a penchant for slinging the word "whataboutism" around as if it was a good argument. It's more of a trumpism where you just say a slogan so you don't have to address the point. Well done.
Snowy Hydro 2.0 was something he backed heavily whilst in power. He has also invested and advocate considerably in renewables since leaving politics. Compare that to your regular run of the mill politician like Gladys or Baird swanning into telcos and banking, or the others jumping into gambling industries.
Also, why are you downplaying him talking about climate change? It's one of his best assets, he holds huge influence. Would you prefer he install solar panels? Get real. You just want someone to hate but are completely misguided.
He did do something about it. But it's very easy to paper over that argument in an echo chamber.
Whats more is that he continues to do something about it in the private sector. This is after losing his prime ministership for trying to do something about it at the political level.
What have you done?
And it was the second time it's happened to him because he lost the shadow leadership on similar grounds.
A lot of people shit on Turnbull because they think you can just do whatever you want with no repercussions when you're PM. But that is such a narrow minded way of thinking.
We've got one of the most left leaning PMs in recent history right now who still needs to appease both sides of politics. You don't just get a blank cheque in a democracy.
And that's where I can see people having concerns. By voting Yes, you are opening the door for a model that you may not agree with. I can see people being hesitant about it, like it's a trap. But that's just my devil's advocate opinion, the fact is that this will unlikely affect anyone who isn't ingenious in a tangible way.
It's well overdue for us to genuinely celebrate our indigenous heritage and ensure our constitution allows us to embed this culture into our country's DNA.