[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Like Git, GitHub

Not sure how many times I need to tell that that it isn't a pre-requisite.

… I did.

No you didn't. I just added screenshots in my other reply pointing out all the links that you didn't click on.

you mention commits.

for those who are taking the option of following the repo.

Knowing wtf you are talking about is a prerequisite to literally understanding the words you are typing

You think people would be following along in the repo if they didn't know what a repo was?? 😂

To anyone that knows nothing about programming your words are completely nonsense here

Why would "anyone that knows nothing about programming" be reading a blog about how to write a MAUI page in C# instead of XAML? 😂 And, again, this is covered by the links in the pre-requisites, the whole point to begin with.

they will think “then why did this author mention it?”

Because it's optional

The first mention of layouts is when you

...go read the information at the pre-requisite links.

which is nonsense to someone that doesn’t know anything about layouts

And why would "someone that doesn’t know anything about layouts" be reading a blog about layouts in MAUI? 😂

you literally just had us delete it!

I also covered the process for (re)creating the whole project at the beginning, for those who didn't have the common sense to read through what what was going to happen after we delete it, or they can click on the first version in the repo, and these are Windows developers, so it's probably still in the recycle bin, so yes, they most definitely can.

you said we don’t need to click on the link to the code

That's right.

you said everything would be provided in the article!

Yep, including links to pre-requisites.

All of which are false at this point

Nope, none of which are false.

WTF are ScrollView and VerticalStackLayout

Covered by links in the pre-requisites and subsequent directions on what to do.

This requires prerequisite knowledge of how layouts work.

Covered at the pre-requisite links.

This is not in any of the prerequisite links

I already proved you didn't look at any of the links there, like...

(meaning we can’t just read the tutorial to find the information we need

You can if you're already familiar with everything in the pre-requisites.

you’re forcing users to do the coding

How am I forcing them? They can just read it all if they want. Also, you know that's why they are reading the blog in the first place, right? 😂

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

no you literally don’t

Yes I literally do. "gives us a consistent look throughout the app, and in fact a consistent look across all our platforms (because we are now replacing the default colours with our own colours)", etc.

The first link is a download link.

It's a download page. Scroll down past the download link.

The second link is a download link

Ditto...

The third link is a link to a single tutorial titled “Introduction to C#”

Ditto

git, or even github

Still not a pre-requisite

Do you really need me to go paste all of the text from those pages here into a comment so you can see for yourself?

I just pasted screenshots showing where you can go deeper as needed on the actual pre-requisites.

this either needs to be combined with the first sentence or needs to be capitalized

It's a reserved keyword, always in lower-case.

you also switch between colour and color numerous times

color is a reserved keyword, colour is correct English (since I'm not American).

there’s more

And several that you've referred to already are in fact not typo's.

Just stop arguing about having a perfect tutorial

I never said that Mr. Strawman. I gave it as an example of how to cater to all levels of reader. i.e. pre-requisite links, etc.

Claiming that you have is honestly ridiculous

And you claiming that I did is ridiculous.

I also would never choose to do a tutorial on dev.to.

It's there because that's where some of the MAUI team post blogs themselves - all in one place. - but good on you for criticising me without even asking why it's there.

You never once show the full file in the article

Again, yes I do, at the beginning

so stating that you need to leave your article to see the full code is the exact opposite of what your tutorial has stated

No it isn't. I stated that was optional at the beginning.

your tutorial is severely lacking

says person picking on typo's (some of which aren't) and didn't explore any of the pages linked to in the pre-requisites. I guess you expect me to re-invent the wheel in the latter case...

continue writing tutorials like this one

that have links to pre-requisites, which is the whole point to begin with, but sure, pick on some typo's (some of which aren't) because you can't refute the actual point... 🙄

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

Others are debating the point about the doc itself

Most of those others have shown they only read the first paragraph (which is literally the introduction, not the start of the tutorial itself).

just because you enjoyed doing it, doesn’t mean others do, or have the time

I never implied otherwise. I simply used it to show it only takes a few minutes to include pre-requisites for the thing you are writing, compete with links to relevant resources. Microsoft documentation never does either of those things, and those people are paid to write it. Then they ignore your issues that you raise. I forget his name now, but I remember one guy there who did this all the time - would just close your issue and not update the document. I remember one time James Montemagno fixed up an issue I raised, but this other guy, never. I just gave up on raising issues. I'm surprised his name isn't burnt into my memory with PTSD 😂

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

“it’s very easy!”

A lot of experienced people say that, and it isn't to a beginner. The infamous example in Maths circles is "the proof is left as an exercise for the reader". In other words, "I couldn't be bothered writing this because I'm assuming you already know how to do it".

It’s a curse of knowledge

Yep, the people who write the Microsoft documentation assume that the readers know everything they already know.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

most people writing these things aren’t paid.

I wasn't paid to write Creating MAUI UI's in C#. Didn't stop me from doing a proper job of it.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

can tell you are neither in nor familiar with the current issues in education

Says person quoting an excuse given several years ago, and clearly hasn't looked up who he's talking to (spoiler alert: a Maths teacher)

that’s the legacy of remote learning

That was the excuse given several years ago. Latest figures (a few weeks ago, as I already said) show the U.S. has fallen even further behind the rest of the world post return to school, so the issue was never remote learning to begin with.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

credentialing standards are set state by state. you know that, right?

Yep. And you know Florida isn't the only state falling behind in Maths, right? Now go look and see how many states no longer require Maths teachers to have qualifications in Maths and you'll see why

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

Or are you misconstruing “that math” for “all math”?

I wasn't even commenting on that, hence why I quoted "remember FOIL?" and not the rest.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

i have an idea, look up credentialing standards before you comment on them

says person who clearly didn't. You know they've changed them recently, right?

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

there’s more of the country than florida

And there's more of the country falling behind the rest of the world in Maths than just Florida. It was all over the news, again, just a few weeks ago.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

The rules for order-of-operations are, so far as I know, arbitrary

No, they're not.

Knowing that you’re supposed to do division first isn’t obvious.

It is if you've been to school or read a Maths textbook

correct, per the standard rules

The only rules

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the proper way is to group it as 1+(-2)+3

No it isn't.

you can do it in any order

You can do it in any order anyway

left to right 1-2+3=-1+3=2

addition first 1+3-2=4-2=2

subtraction first -2+1+3=-1+3=2

right to left 3-2+1=1+1=2

What I meant with ““rule”” is the meme questions pray on people not understanding/remembering what the actual rules are

And you showed that you were one of them. Every answer you got other than 4 was wrong, because you didn't understand the rules. spoiler alert: doing it in different orders never means add brackets to it. Addition first for 10-1+1 is 10+1-1, not 10-(1+1). See previous textbook example

why “left to right” conventions exist

They exist because people like you make mistakes when you try to do it in a different order. Either learn how the rules work or stop spreading disinformation. Well, you should stop spreading disinformation regardless.

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