[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 8 months ago

Post picture declaiming brackets as a multiplication symbol,

What do you think the "B" step in BEDMAS is for?? 😂

proceeds to solve the problem to the exact same solution using distributive law to

Distribute the coefficient over the terms inside the brackets

Fucking genius

Says someone who can't tell the difference between Distributing, 2(1+3)=(2+6), and Multiplication, 2x(1+3)=2x4, 1/(2+6)=(1/8), 1/2x4=2

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 8 months ago

Yes it does

Says person who can't cite a single example of it depending on the language 🙄

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 8 months ago

Sorry, your realm does not extend into English

Sorry, it most definitely does when it comes to how English is used in Maths

It’s tangential to mathematics, but it isn’t mathematics

The way we say Mathematical things is 100% Maths

There’s absolutely nothing you can improve on?

I can improve some badly written textbooks. Probably every Maths teacher can.

Has a teacher ever been wrong (or just uninformed) about a topic in a subject they teach?

Yes, ones who haven't looked in the textbook which seems to be the case with a lot of unqualified U.S. Maths teachers

Does every English teacher know the content of every book?

Probably the content of every book they teach 🙄

No one knows everything about a subject

Teachers do. It comes from teaching the same thing year after year after year

Anyway, this isn’t your subject!

Yes it is! 😂

This is English, not math

It's Mathematical English

Do you see any formulas, proofs, or equations in these comments?

Do you see words in Maths textbooks? And the definitions of them? 🙄

What don’t you get?

Why you keep insisting that Maths textbooks are wrong

It being in an algebra textbook does not limit it to the realm of algebra

And NOT being in any arithmetic book means it's not part of Arithmetic 🙄

Numbers are in that textbook too

Yep, both Arithmetic and Algebra, as opposed to a(b+c) which is only in Algebra books.

If I’m wrong, I’d love to see the citation

Says person who can't cite any Arithmetic books it's in 🙄

Anyway, unless you provide that proof at the end there

Already gave it in the previous post... which you didn't look at 🙄

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 8 months ago

You’re not listening to me

Says person refusing to look in Maths textbooks 🙄

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

it would have to explain to people “how do you use a keyboard”

No it wouldn't. You just link to resources about pre-requisite knowledge.

and everything from there upwards

Nope. Exact same thing applies to all pre-requisite knowledge.

For 99% of people almost all that is about as understandable as Greek

Now scroll down to the pre-requisite knowledge which has links to things explaining ALL of that.

how many people out there in the whole World (non-IT people as illustrated in the actual article linked by the OP) do you think know what the hell is “Visual Studio”, “.Net”, “Multi-platform Application User Interface”, “template”, “C#”, “XAML”, “binding” (in this context)

Exact same number as there is people capable of clicking on the provided links about them in the pre-requisite knowledge section.

which is maybe level 4 and they’ll be totally lost,

...until they read the links in the pre-requisite knowledge, and then they will understand all of it.

I think you’re so way beyond the average person in your expertise in this domain

says person who didn't even scroll past the introductory paragraph! 😂 You think people try to learn things by reading only the introductory paragraph?? 😂

you don’t even begin to suspect just how little of our domain the average person knows compared to an mere programmer

And yet, weirdly, if you keep reading you'll find it caters to people who know nothing about it 😂

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago

AFAIK, this is correct to the point that I have understanding of. I’m not a mathematician

I'm a Maths teacher/tutor. The actual rules are Terms and The Distributive Law. There is no such thing as "implicit multiplication" (which is usually people lumping the 2 separate rules together as one and ending up with wrong answers).

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago

Either ‐(n²) or (-n)². Order of operations shouldn’t be some sort of gotcha to trick people into misinterpreting you

It isn't. With ‐(n²), n² is already a single term, so the brackets aren't needed.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago

This is why every calculator should be a RPN calculator

No, this is why programmers should (re)learn the order of operations rules before writing a calculator.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago

Those math questions that rely on purposeful ambiguity in order to drive engagement

#MathsIsNeverAmbiguous The engagement is driven by people not remembering the rules of Maths. #DontForgetDistribution

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago

A computer will convert 2(4) to 2 x 4

Only if that's what the programmer has programmed it to do, which is unfortunately most programmers. The correct conversion is 2(4)=(2x4).

in the 90s that if you had a fancy calculator with parentheses, you could fool it because it didn’t know about implicit association. Your calculator doesn’t know the difference between 2 x (2+2) and 2(2+2), but mathematicians do

Actually it's only in the 90's that some calculators started getting it wrong - prior to that they all gave correct answers.

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

P.S. if you DID want to indicate "weak juxtaposition", then you just put a multiplication symbol, and then yes it would be done as "M" in BEDMAS, because it's no longer the coefficient of a bracketed term (to be solved as part of "B"), but a separate term.

6/2(1+2)=6/(2+4)=6/6=1

6/2x(1+2)=6/2x3=3x3=9

[-] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -2 points 2 years ago

could we not have some international body just make a decision one way or the other

There's no decision to be made. The correct rules are already taught in literally every Year 7-8 Maths textbook.

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