ToastedPlanet

joined 2 years ago

There are people who are not plugged in to US politics that check in somewhere at the end of an election cycle. With so much information to consume and so little time it's easy for people to have missed something. For political junkies, this is a reminder, but for many people it is a warning.

I try to take a break from the news at least once a week. Even that one day away can put me behind with everything that happens.

It's like that Doctor Who episode with the spaceship next to the black hole. The closer we get to election day the more news that happens in a given day. It's like we're slowing down by the black hole and years of news are rocketing past us on the other end of the spaceship.

Planning for failure in a democratic election definitely makes the Republican position look weak. Regardless, vote Blue!

I’m just saying they have a plan for a narrow loss and a plan for getting the shit kicked out of them.

No, your argument is mistaking nonsense and lying no matter what as a plan. The way we win is by them getting the shit kicked out of them in the election count results. It makes MAGA Republicans sound absurd when they try to say millions of votes were faked. The majority of people know that's ridiculous because we all live in reality. Making the MAGA movement look like clowns when they inevitably make their false claims is how we win.

To put it another way, we don't need to win over MAGA loyalists, we need to win over everyone else. The smaller the margin of the victory for Kamala, the more credible the MAGA movement's claims seem. They will make the same claims no matter the actual results. That's not logic, that's additional evidence that the MAGA movement is a cult. So we need to pull the rug out from under the MAGA movement with a landslide victory for Kamala by voting in record numbers.

It's not a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a case of making it clear that the inevitable lie from MAGA is in fact a lie.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If all people are seeing are the polls, then they could easily be misled. Tell people right-wing organizations are skewing their polls to create a red mirage.

Spread the word. People need to know to ignore the polls and vote for Harris and Walz.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Following that strategy we would be giving the election away to Trump. A small deviation from the polls in Kamala's favor would be more suspect than a large one, because it would be easier to fake. We cannot win over MAGA Republicans in this narrow time window, they will say the election is rigged even if Trump wins. For most people, seeing Kamala win in a landslide would be proof the polls got it wrong.

I'm not sure how many never Trump Republicans are in the House of Representatives or the Senate now. It was a minority before, but it's probably even smaller now. Mitt Romney didn't run for reelection in the Senate. Every House seat is up for grabs.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Biden would definitely immediately send in support to any kind of Jan 6th esque event.

I doubt he will leverage the immunity SCOTUS has given presidents to safeguard democracy, but I would be happy to be proven wrong on that point. Hopefully it won't come to that.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

This is why it's important to vote in record numbers no matter where people live. Kamala needs to win in a landslide in as many places as possible to leave no doubt that these polls were bogus. Otherwise we could end up with contested election results all over the country. edit: typos

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 months ago

This has been going on for at least the last week or two. An article I read said they could account for a biased poll, but I think the quantity is still skewing the average. If these polls are suspect, because of their source, it's unclear to me why polling websites sites are uncritically taking them into account.

No, prevent as in stop Israel from finishing.

There are definitely goals that are statistically improbable that are beyond are current means to navigate consistently, like getting rich through lottery tickets, but they don't violate physics. We do have to take into account what we are able to influence, practically speaking, with our actions.

I bring up physics because we live in a physics-based universe as opposed to a moral universe. So our analysis of our course of actions must take that physical reality into account when pursuing a subjective moral outcome. If we lived in a moral universe, like D&D, we would only need to ask do the ends justify the means. Acting to achieve a goal in a such a universe would, in theory, always be a matter of acting in a way that was consistent with the end goal. But that's not the universe we live in.

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