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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They tried to join NATO and they didn't let them. There was a real threat and they chose not to deter it.

Finland wasn't under any threat and was allowed to join, around the same time. The country that actually had a known threat wasn't allowed to join. So they clearly haven't deterred anything.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The threat of Russian involvement in Ukraine was known wayyyy ahead of the invasion actually occurring. Ukraine tried hard to join NATO to "deter" it but they never allowed it. So yeah, they don't deter shit.

If Russia had plans to invade Finland like they did Ukraine, we don't know if that would have gotten them into NATO.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

or are you being intentionally dense?

Is your argument not good enough on its own, that you have to engage in personal attacks? No I am not dense. Please keep these comments to yourself. If you can't engage in a civil discussion, I will report you to moderators.

Do you not understand the concept of deterrence

I do understand it. Now I'd love to see a proof of the presence of a threat that was deterred due to US military budget.

Do you believe for one second that Putin stops with Ukraine if NATO and the US weren't standing in his way?

I need to see proof to believe that Russia is a threat to the parts of Europe you speak of, and said threat was deterred by US military budget. Otherwise I will continue not believing it.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

If they are so good at protecting Europe, why don't they protect Ukraine, instead of fueling the profits of the military industrial complex? Why do they keep letting hostilities and murder happen? Sounds like they aren't deterring threats very well.

Ukraine war proves you wrong. When the threat is real, they do not deter it.

This isn't to mention that Finland has not faced the same circumstances of Ukraine that led up to the war there, which goes back to my feafmongering claim.

But again, if you think Finland is under the same threat as Ukraine (it's not), the US has failed to protect it. But they have successfully made a lot of profit for military corporations.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So can you answer the question? Has there been a threat or Russian aggression into Western Europe that was averted due to US involvement? I am yet to see that.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Finland joined NATO because of fearmongering. I am yet to see a real threat. Now can you answer my question? If not, then it says enough.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (23 children)

our military protects European countries

Please give me a list of enough threats the US protected Europe from to back your statement. I doubt there are enough to justify those differences, and hence your statement must be doubted until you prove otherwise.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Are they not expensive?

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

It is not privacy minded unfortunately. No major smartphone brand has privacy.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be a less sustainable use of land?

I guess maybe not if we are talking tall building, where the roof surface area may not be sufficient for the entire building. But it would be a waste not to make use of all the unused rooftops

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks a lot! What does DTS mean?

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They seem to be the only product that occupies negligible space and is relatively affordable.

The other options are either more expensive or significantly larger.

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