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[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel Minister

So... A representative of the Israeli state? The state founded on Zionism? That's not a correction. That is Israel.

Hamas also thinks jews are no humans

Source? Hamas has a history with anti Semitic conspiracy theories and generalizations, but not to the extent of saying Jews aren't human.

Not to mention, even said anti semitism was dropped long ago, when Hamas underwent a radical shift in membership when Israel killed off other PLO groups.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Please feel free to ask any questions! I am happy to answer them all

Can you please cite which part of Wikipedia is saying this?

"Palestine" and "Israel" are two names for the same region, so it doesn't make sense to be expelled from one into the other. I think there must be a misunderstanding here.

I bet this is referring to certain Arab States expelling Jews during the creation of Israel and the British occupation of Palestine, as a retaliation (which was horrible and stupid and I fully condemn it). But keep in mind this is well into the conflict, when Zionists and British occupation were already well into committing heinous acts and massacres, and that this is Arab States who sympathized with Palestine, not Palestine itself.

What I was referring to was treatment of Jews in Palestine before the Zionist project.

As for Hamas' anti-semitism, I think some background information is important here.

When it was founded, Hamas was not a popular group by any means. Popular Palestinian resistance groups at the time were socialist and progressive, such as the PFLP and other members of the PLO. Hamas was founded as a Muslim brotherhood affiliate, and its charter had many anti Semitic references.

Israel saw this as a huge opportunity, and it propped up Hamas while fighting off other groups. Fast forward to the 2000's, every Palestinian resistance group was left defeated, and Hamas was left as the only group left fighting. Palestinians had no choice but to support Hamas.

This was a major change for Hamas. It saw hoardes of Palestinians join its ranks, and most were not ideologically aligned with them. There are even Christians fighting among its ranks. This caused an ideological shift within Hamas. It was even reflected in its new charter in 2017, which dropped anti-semitic rhetoric and said it is fighting against Israel, not because of its religion, but because of the Zionist occupation. You can find this charter translated online easily.

Since then, many Hamas officials reiterated their position that they are not fighting to expel Jews, but against Zionist occupation.

Palestinians today see Hamas as a vehicle for their liberation, and not as an ideological alignment. But even then, most of the people in Hamas do not hold anti Semitic opinions anymore, and we should keep in mind this major shift throughout its history.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure there was at least one publisher caught experimenting with this.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It means they wouldn't

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What worries me is, what if they put in some obfudcated unique ID in the document that can be traced back to you? Is there a way to catch it with reasonable certainty?

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you wanna hold a dance party at the border of a concentration camp and active war zone, and be surprised to get caught in the crossfire?

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel: we literally don't consider the people of Gaza to be humans

You: sheesh, I really I can't tell the difference between these two!

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Israel: we literally don't think people in Gaza are human

Westerners: I can't tell the difference between the two sides!

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What definition of "terrorist organization" are we using here?

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