I do appreciate some of the philosophy of Hey, like cherishing the human-to-human section of your inbox. But it's simply not worth the price tag. Also now that DHH has proudly proclaimed he does not read any of the code, I don't think it's even worth it for free, if I'm gambling with my data. I just self-host Stalwart and Bulwark.
Well now I kind of want to watch it.
Hadn't even heard of it.
What's controversial about The Walking Dead? (I only saw the first season).
It's a mediocre list for sure.
- Shogun is too low.
- Babylon Berlin is missing.
- Lost? Really?
- Band of Brothers is too low.
- Better Call Saul is too low.
- Severance is too low.
- Watchmen is too low.
- Barry is too low.
- Eastbound and Down but no Vice Principals is crazy.
- Community is too low.
The main point of OP is that this was a misunderstanding that turned into an overreaction. It sounds like there was never any confusion among the maintainers that they were trying to create a policy to prevent LLM slop PRs and reduce maintenance burden. Somehow non-maintainers derailed the discussion into an anti-AI tirade that was completely unproductive.
So basically: yes people should shut up if they don't have anything productive to add to the discussion.
It was clear he was referring to anyone involving themselves unnecessarily in the business of maintainers trying to create a policy. This tends to happen whenever maintainers discuss things openly.
It didn't seem condescending to me. You have to accept that non-contributors simply don't get as much weight as contributors in this kind of discussion. So when a lead maintainer sees non-contributors starting debates and criticizing the project when they don't have their facts straight and it really wasn't any of their business to begin with, they have a right to call them out.
OK sure, how is that different from learning from a human? People also lie sometimes, even without knowing it. Fact checking is still relevant.
anathema to actually learning anything
Why? I've learned lots of things from asking an LLM to help me understand a new piece of foreign grammar.
Not everyone has access to a native speaker 100% of the time, so it's a lossy substitute. Obviously the real test is whether a native speaker agrees with what the LLM says.
What do you think about learning languages with LLMs? I use them to help when I want to make a translation sound more natural or understand why a native speaker phrased something a certain way.
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Oh nice it has Lee Pace. I really like him in Foundation. I'll give it a shot.