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[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, now Tankie is all but useless because liberals and so-called leftists that criticize communism use it the same way conservatives use “woke”

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Richard Wolff, a prominent marxist academic, talks often about a socialist system where democracy is employed in the workplace. He focuses less on reforms or abolition at the state/government-level, and instead emphasizes the bottom-up changes that giving workers power and agency (i.e., making it so workers at all levels are involved in the decision-making process of the companies that require their labour) provides. He has a youtube channel and podcast called "Democracy at Work" that provides great introductions to how he views things, and he has worthwhile podcast appearances on other podcasts like Lex Fridman's, for example.

Consider how impactful countries like Wal-Mart or Amazon are in our daily lives. Their economic throughputs are larger than all but a few countries in the world, and their workforce populations are also larger than many countries. Clearly they aren't organized as representative democracies?

Another question I wonder related to this, is what exactly makes "representative democracy" the gold standard? Is it even the gold standard?

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What about the absolute lack of “representative democracy” we experience under capitalism?

I’d argue that the capitalist system is more at odds with representative democracy than other systems mentioned. Most workers have no say in what is produced, who produces it, how they are paid, how much products are sold for, etc. Instead, we end up with figurehead CEO’s and nameless investors making all of those decisions, and of course they do everything to minimize costs, maximize profits, and disempower workers so that they can collect billions of dollars at the expense of the workers who actually make their companies run. If we had representative democracy do you think we’d have billionaires?

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 93 points 1 year ago

Middle class between what

Lmao, this is such a good one

maybe about politics but not about a tv show or harmless interest 🤝

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I (and I'm sure tons of community members from different communities) appreciate how responsive you've been throughout the thread, and I just want to share a thought to your reply. You said:

I think this question is bait, but I will answer in good faith with an example to hopefully drive the point home.

Posting "[hammer and sickle] 10 reasons why we need communism..." is clearly not Kremlin propaganda. Posting "[hammer and sickle] Ukraine shouldn't even exist, long live CCCP" is clearly Kremlin propanda.

This example is like a 10/10 easy slam dunk, but I think the concern that many users have about alleging "Kremlin propaganda" is that there are an infinite amount of examples that are much harder, if not impossible, to clearly distinguish. It's these grey areas, which are also far more common, that prompt different degrees of skepticism or uncertainty about the terminology and its application. It's easy to apply the term to extreme and unlikely hypotheticals, but to apply it to actual conversations is a different task

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Hi, I'll try and share my 2 cents here bear-chill

Is Hexbear a former left-wing "forum" now taken over by fascist trolls?

Big no. Hexbear is made up of a diverse group of people whose political views generally fall under one or more of the big umbrellas of "communism" or "socialism". Users on hexbear also hold and exchange a wide range of views about the USSR and Russia. Despite the range of views on some issues, we are explicitly anti-capitalist and anti-fascist (and generally speaking, we use these terms mindfully; i.e., we don't call everything we don't like _______), and we love our trans comrades.

In OP's post and in your reply, I can't help but focus on the term "kremlin propaganda". I'm not the most well-read person ever, so I have trouble understanding what they mean by the term. Whether the "Kremlin" is in reference to the USSR of old or today's Russia is unclear - and I think that is a worthwhile distinction. Also, many hexbear users have been accused of spreading "propaganda" when posting anything remotely political, especially if it counters the prevailing narratives of the US, NATO, etc. Hopefully a more knowledgeable user can provide some clarity on what is (and isn't) "kremlin propaganda"?

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re right, because when Oregon became a state, they made it illegal for black people to even live in the state.

You are not your state, but your intellectual dishonesty about its racist history (among other things, and which you likely benefit from) because “slavery illegal” doesn’t portray you favourably.

Edit: and you’re also sidestepping the genocide of “Oregon’s” indigenous population, as well as other racist laws and labour practices (e.g., towards Chinese immigrants). Kind of a weird thing to be doing if you stand against extremism or exclusionary politics.

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

This is the most important proxy war of our lifetime! joever

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

the climate change actions taken by Biden

Because who else would greenlight controversial pipeline projects that will accelerate the rot of remote ecosystems and the pollution of our atmosphere and waters? Oh right, any other elected official on either side of the Dem / Republican line...

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

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