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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/showmeufos on 2024-09-27 15:52:26+00:00.


UAPTF Org Chart as of March 2021

Credit to Twitter user "Teg" for obtaining this.

DIRECT LINK TO UAPTF ORG-CHART PDF

Teg posted:

On December 2023 I asked US Navy for UAPTF Organizational Chart. Here it is . Same date I also asked OSD/JS for AARO org chart, no answer yet. Some comments below:

IC/CSA: you will notice b1 exemption (Information that is classified to protect national security) so they won’t tell the name of one agency, interesting. Any guesses? CSA means Combat Support Agencies, currently 8 agencies designated as CSA, some are already listed (DIA, NSA)

DISL refers to a Defense Intelligence Senior Level position. S&T Working Group, same b1 exemption (could be the same agency or not). SMDC should be US Army Space and Missile Defense Command. NAVAIR - Naval Air Systems Command. The rest are probably well known by everybody.

Research Director: one position from USNR (Navy Reserve) and one from USMC; Tech. Collection is 1 USAFR (Reserve), 1 NAWCAD (Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division), 1 ?. Tech. Director was USFF (Fleet Forces Command), another 3 positions but only 1 of them mentioned as USFF

NIA (bottom right corner) means Naval Intelligence Activity (UAPTF belonged to the NIA, even if Jay Stratton was working at ONI and had an ONI email in support of his duties for ONI). Anyway I followed up for some aspects, will see if anything new comes out.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/PackageBudget2824 on 2024-09-27 13:53:12+00:00.


I saw this article today and it caught my eye because of Pine Gap. It seems like that is where a lot of people think that UFO too big to move is located at in Australia. So I did a little digging on the engineer involved, Cory Smith, and found this article:

Looks like he was contracted by Raytheon.

Not sure if any of this is relevant, but as a person who moderately pays attention to the UAP issue, I thought it was interesting to see a connection between the two (Pine Gap and Raytheon).

Anyone have any insight? Makes me wonder if Cory Smith would be a good target for some FOIA requests.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Vectrex71CH on 2024-09-27 10:23:27+00:00.


There is a Group of Swiss German Ufo and Paranormal activity investigators called Hangar18B

I know, this Subreddit is in English, but these guys made an interesting interactive Map on GoogleMaps with hundreds over hundreds UFO cases and Paranormal activity Topics and placed them on the map.

Interactive Hangar 18b Map

Link to the Map

PS: I'm none of the Members there, but i like their Map Project and even if it's not in English, it is still a helpful resource and i wanted to share it with you guys.

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Watching this interview with him and at 1 hour and 51 minutes in he is asked about whistleblowers like Edward Snowden and he said Snowden is a traitor that just wanted to give all of our secrets to Russia. What do you guys think? I know Snowden is a controversial figure, but some feel he did a patriotic duty because he was forced into a corner. Without him, the security apparatus and spying domestically in the United States would still be a wacky conspiracy theory

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/boss_mang on 2024-09-27 08:40:41+00:00.


Shigeru Ishiba, just named Japan’s new PM, is a founding member of a parliamentary group that supports research into UAPs. He also served as defense minister from 2007-2008 and has spoken hypothetically about how the government might respond to UFOs appearing in Japan’s airspace.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/rangefoulerexpert on 2024-09-27 06:45:35+00:00.

Original Title: Wikipedia says AARO has resolved "half" of its "510 UAP reports" with instances of "weather balloons". AARO has resolved only four cases, none of which were weather balloons. I find it hard to believe this was an honest mistake.


In Wikipedia's article for the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office they state that:

"AARO has opened hundreds of investigations since its founding in 2022. Half of these have been resolved with mundane explanations, for instance, weather balloons. The other half remain unexplained, with insufficient data to reach any conclusion."

Their primary source is the ODNI 2022 UAP report, and their secondary source is a livescience article summarizing that report.

I can give them some grace if they are just copying and pasting from the livescience artice, it has a few mistakes in it, but it's still different enough to wonder how they genuinely got the final result that's on wikipedia.

Livescience article:

Of the 366 newly opened cases, 195 have been initially resolved with relatively mundane explanations; according to the report, 26 cases were identified as drones, 163 were classified as "balloons or balloon-like entities," and six were labeled as airborne clutter, such as birds or plastic bags.

But, when you look at the actual report, it says this:

ODNI report:

AARO’s initial analysis and characterization of the 366 newly identified reports, informed by a multi-agency process, judged more than half as exhibiting unremarkable characteristics:

26 characterized as Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) or UAS-like entities;163 characterized as balloon or balloon-like entities; and 6 attributed to clutter.

Initial characterization does not mean positively resolved or unidentified.

It's fine if wikipedia copied from an article that said AARO resolved half of its cases. They should have looked at the primary source more carefully and saw that they were talking about initial characterization. But they did look at the primary source, and they did know it was characterization, so where did the genuine mistake begin and end? Look at the rest of the ODNI report, then look at what wikipedia says

Rest of ODNI report:

Initial characterization does not mean positively resolved or unidentified. This initial characterization better enables AARO and ODNI to efficiently and effectively leverage resources against the remaining 171 uncharacterized and unattributed UAP reports. Some of these uncharacterized UAP appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities, and require further analysis.

Rest of Wikipedia:

Out of the 366, 171 remained uncharacterized.[50][58][59] The report noted that some of these uncharacterized UAPs appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities and that these reported incidents required further analysis.

You can't know it's a characterization and think it's a resolution at the same time. I mean, not unless you're crazy and your mind is always changing in the present moment, but those kinds of people are not exactly the pedantic encyclopedia editor type.

You can go here to see all the resolved report from aaro: As you can see, there are only four, with one being a "commercial LTA lighting system" balloon.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Fulkerson1776 on 2024-09-27 04:31:02+00:00.


For the past week with the exception of 1 night we have been seeing lights appear out of nowhere in the northwest sky from around 10pm to 11pm. They have either been directly below the end of the big dipper handle to 10-15 degrees left (west) of the big dipper handle. They appear out of nowhere from just above the horizon to 10 degrees or so above the horizon usually traveling at a good pace upward into the sky on various trajectories. They vary in brightness. Some look almost like a dim star and some are at least 20 times brighter than anything else in the sky. They seem to appear every minute or so and occasionally we have seen 2 or 3 appear at the same time. We have even seen several that move horizontally rather than upward at various angles like most of them. I watched tonight starting around 10pm CST and witnessed over 70 of them over the course of an hour. They were out the past two nights and we saw them last weekend as well. I have no idea what the hell I am seeing but it is strange as hell. Tomorrow is Friday. If you are in southeast Kansas or anywhere in surrounding areas, I would highly recommend you go out around 10pm and just watch the horizon to the northwest for a little bit. I bet they'll be back and you'll be as perplexed as me. They only stay light for 2 to 10 seconds after they appear but they are always moving at a good clip so they are not hard to pick out, especially the really bright ones.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/DoctahTrax on 2024-09-27 04:00:38+00:00.

Original Title: Today 20 years ago John Mack was killed in a car accident in london. He served as the head of the department of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School for over 27 years and was initiating serious studies about Alien Abductions . His work will be a timeless piece of data embedded in the UFO field. RIP

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I found 3 interesting leads on man called William Donovan related to UFO crash retrievals. Who was this man? William J. Donovan was an American soldier, lawyer, intelligence officer and diplomat. He is best known for serving as the head of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the precursor to the Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), during World War II. He is regarded as the founding father of the CIA.

  1. Whistleblower David Grusch claimed that at the end of World War Two, United States recovered UFO craft which was stored in secret hangar in Italy. Grusch specifically said that the recovery was made by OSS - Office of Strategic Services. At that time in 1944/1945 William Donovan was the head of OSS. Donovan was very active in espionage in Europe. If Grusch story is true, then undoubtedly Donovan would be aware of that. He was also personal friend of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who once again, according to Grusch, was aware of crash UFOs during World War Two.
  2. In 1998 in UFO-magazine appeared peculiar article written by person nicknamed 'Sedge Masters'. It was long speculated that it was someone who had knowledge about UFO crash retrieval program. Masters provided very interesting information about the program, including recovery from Roswell. In the article we can found this information:

'During the years preceding World War II, informal contacts made by Americans touring in Europe - tasked to do so by then-attorney William Donovan (who was later the head of the OSS in World War II) - revealed that there had been a number of sightings of unusual aerial phenomena and craft over European skies, particularly in the vicinity of German military facilities'.

'In retrospect, the most ominous of the reports claimed that downed saucer-like craft of indetermine origin was recovered by Wehrmacht troops in the days immediately preceding Germany's invasion of Poland'.

'The rush of events focused the attention of the military and the OSS on other matters of more pressing concern, although it had been resolved to look into these reports again at the war's conclusion'.

  1. At about 10 pm, 16 September 1999, Tim Cooper meet at his front door a man carrying an arm load of documents. He apparently came from a maroon vehicle. He said he was the same person as the one who had called a few days earlier and had been sending him other materials. He apparently was source “S-2.” He said that he was with Army Intelligence, and had been assigned as a liaison officer with Foreign Technology Division at Dayton. Source provided multiple documents, including one being alleged memorandum written by Franklin Delano Roosevelt at 27 February 1942 to George Marshall, Chief of Staff of US Army.

In this document FDR stated that he authorised Vannevar Bush to proceed with the project with the project on the issue of 'finding practical uses for atomic secrets learned from study of celestial devices'. This could be reference to the crashed UFO from Cape Girardeau 1941 or San Bernardino 1942.

Curiously, in this document Roosevelt says that the only people who should know this information are George Marshall, Vannevar Bush, Henry Stimson and William Donovan.

Conclusion: if allegations about secret UFO crash retrieval program are true, then William Donovan probably knew about it during World War Two.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/AnonLookout on 2024-09-27 01:47:46+00:00.


Seems pretty interesting that this phenomenon has captured the attention of a major university. The link is here to watch live starting at 9:30am EST

I contacted the organizers and they said Dr. Kevin Knuth is part of the starting lineup. Looks like it checks out:

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TLDR: It seems to me that a secondary benefit of dismantling NOAA is the closing of one of the only conduits outside of the military industrial complex that can detect and study UAP.

Today, Greenwald announced a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request to obtain NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) emails here. He said...

In July 2023, I filed a request for all emails sent to/from Rear Admiral Timothy Gallaudet. He was the former Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and former Acting Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and Administrator of NOAA. The keyword search contained various UAP related keywords, including "Elizondo" and "Grusch".

On his Black Vault post, he made the following observation about the initial documents her received from NOAA.

Throughout the correspondence, NOAA’s emphasis on interagency collaboration was clear. The agency’s willingness to host meetings, share data, and engage with military and intelligence personnel shows NOAA’s proactive role in the broader effort to understand UAP.

NOAA seems to pop up in my research as team player when it comes to the UAP issue. They have wide technological monitoring capabilities that are outside the military domain. NOAA employs large fleet of satellites, radars, buoys, floats, drones, ground-based observation networks, weather stations, tide gauges, and radar equipped aircraft. You know that these guys "see shit", and it appears they are more willing than the average agency to share the data.

What I find interesting, is that the far-right conservative political playbook, "Project 2025", wants to dismantle NOAA.

Among its many sweeping calls for change in American government, a conservative platform document known as Project 2025 urges the demolition of some of the nation’s most dependable resources for tracking weather, combating climate change and protecting the public from environmental hazards.

“Break up NOAA,” the document says, referring to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and its six main offices, including the 154-year-old National Weather Service.

“Together, these form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity,” the document says.

I know the far-right are all about small government blah blah blah, and while I know that "the climate change alarm industry" is probably the primary reason to dismantle, I have a hard time not putting on my tin-foil hat when I see that the main players blocking the UAPDA are all republicans, some of which are far right - Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio), Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-La.), and Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

It seems to me that a secondary benefit of dismantling NOAA is the closing of one of the only conduits outside of the military industrial complex that can detect and study UAP.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Middle-Ad8262 on 2024-09-26 16:17:46+00:00.


Hear me out - it is obvious that momentum towards Disclosure has been increasing, with many whistleblowers in the mainstream media and congressional activity. Pre 2017, this was unheard of. What is causing this? Some will say that the public’s push for transparency is the cause. Journalists advocating a “push for disclosure” and to call/write your representatives. As we all know, that has done wonders in the last 70+ years /s. Instead of this generic and overused response, wouldn’t it make a lot more sense that some external factor is forcing this momentum? We can only speculate what that will be, but the 2026/2027 dates have been thrown around a lot lately. If there is indeed some world-altering even taking place in a couple years, wouldn’t it make sense that the gatekeepers would start the process of Disclosure now? They all want to avoid catastrophic disclosure, so it seems a slow slip is the best way. It likely started in 2017 with the NYT article, but it has really stepped up the pace this year with many rumors flying. Even Lue being DOPSR cleared to say that the Roswell coverup did indeed happen suggests he is a gatekeeper-sponsored agent of Disclosure. “They” hope by the time 2026/2027 rolls around, the public will be largely unfazed by the news of the new reality that we live in.

Back to the present and a TL;DR, the process of Disclosure is happening as they want it to happen. No amount of public pressure on congress or other world leaders is going to amount to anything. Maybe one day it will be found out that this was the timeline all along, and this theory of mine will be proved correct.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Sea_Oven814 on 2024-09-26 19:07:31+00:00.

Original Title: Today's 2nd highest post, "whistleblower' claims huge UFO announcement will happen 'within days" - Charles Benjamin McNeal exposed - LARPer, is promoted by disinfo agent Doty, and is in jail for grooming a teen into helping him with crime, next time take 5 minutes to vet your sources please???


Seriously? You're still promoting this LARP/Doty disinfo? First of all these "hype" posts of "big vague thing coming soon" are already red flags and annoying to begin with by default, and "The Mirror" is a super low quality tabloid, with none of the proper newspapers associated with this topic like "News Nation" talking about this guy. But the specific guy making this claim, Charles Benjamin McNeal? Negative levels of credibility.

Two charges of bank robbery and trying to groom a 17yo to help him with it too

Here is an example of Richard Doty (Instant red flag) promoting McNeal, infact given how extremely obscure McNeal was, i'd argue it was probably Doty's fault in the first place he got any traction. On this same X post with Doty you can see "WHISTLEBLOWER" posting his own site, and admitting to being Charles Benjamin Mcneal. He has the same face, same backstory as him.

Also, McNeal weaseled out and deleted his original post about this, but i'm sure if you dig enough, you can find the original post where Ross Coulthart stepped in to call McNeal out for posting a screenshot from X-Files as "pictures of real alien bodies" and other blatantly fake nonsense.

Letting this level of gullibility slip by is immeasurably damaging. Most of the comments are calling out the BS sure, but letting it get posted and highly upvoted (which is questionable if it's even organic or bots in the first place when the comments are almost all negative) in the first place makes everyone here look like a lunatic and hogs attention away from any post of value, this type of godawful 0 thought post shouldn't even be allowed i'd argue.

You might argue i'm going too far here but i honestly think posting this level of BS here should be worthy of a warn and then a ban on repeat offenses, it's not a high bar to clear to take 5 minutes to vet your sources FFS, there is 0 reason to listen to Charles McNeal, no one has vetted him (unless you count Doty lmao) and he has a million red flags if you look even a little into him. If you take disclosure and its potential consequences seriously, as i do, then you should recognize that BS peddlers are some of our worst enemies and we need to be careful with unfamiliar new sources and "hype", the sub tag itself says that this sub is meant to "promote healthy skepticism", but posts like these are clearly exercising 0 skepticism even when it's necessary.

Also the fact that Doty promoted McNeal and helped him out of complete obscurity is 100% proof he never stopped being a disinformation agent and his "change of heart" was all a facade, as i already suspected in the first place, a special agent (AFOSI) who psyops an innocent civilian (Bennewitz) into suicide would hardly change into an "honest man" so easily. It doesn't even make sense from a "grifting" perspective because McNeal is in jail, was completely obscure until Doty went out of his way to promote him, and doesn't appear to be making money for him, it screams malicious disinformation. This should be the 2nd takeaway from this post, Doty never stopped being disinfo, there is 0 doubt about it.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/TheGoodTroubleShow on 2024-09-26 17:09:27+00:00.

Original Title: It was Mitch McConnell who blocked the inclusion of the UAP Disclosure Act in the Manager’s Package for the NDAA. Let's see what magic Senators Rounds and Schumer can muster to get this through in other ways.

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