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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/NewParadigmInstitute on 2024-08-28 17:17:01+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Plus_Ad4250 on 2024-08-28 17:10:12+00:00.


This is the video that was discussed on Joe Rogan with Lou Elizondo at the 1:35 mark of the podcast. (Episode #2194)

You can basically see the warp bubble or time distortion bubble around the UAP that Lou talks about in his new book.

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NHI/UAP-related Reddit subs have had a number of debates about Lue Elizondo’s statements in his new book Imminent referring to “NHI/UAP recon for thousands of years” and recently reported activity indicating the “Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield”. Commenters here have questioned why advanced NHIs would need to undertake recon of Earth and mankind for that length of time, especially if the NHIs are hostile and “preparing an invasion”. Some commenters have also claimed that the NHIs would have already wiped us out if they were hostile; this claim is obviously based on the assumption that “hostile” automatically means “genocidal” (rather than primarily territorial annexation and dominance over local populations, for example).

However, it’s important to understand the wider context of Elizondo’s remarks. He actually explains it in his book. It’s a detailed section and worth reading directly, but here’s a summary of the main point that Elizondo is making:

  • Elizondo uses the analogy of a gorilla in an enclosure.
  • The gorilla is intelligent and adaptable.
  • The gorilla also has a long history of extreme violence.
  • Biologists have been monitoring the enclosure for many years.
  • The biologists place the interests and survival of their own species first. They’re capable of dealing with threats. However, so far they’ve had no need to inflict lethal harm on the gorilla because it hasn’t posed any threat to them.
  • The gorilla’s capabilities begin noticeably increasing and accelerating.
  • The gorilla also starts to occasionally break out of its enclosure, explore the immediate surroundings and return home.
  • The gorilla is clearly curious about its wider environment; there are signs that it intends to visit an increasingly large area of territory outside its enclosure once it figures out how to do this.
  • The gorilla somehow obtains a loaded shotgun.
  • The gorilla figures out how to use the shotgun.
  • The biologists are now faced with the potential threat of an intelligent and violent gorilla armed with a shotgun turning up on their front porch.
  • Elizondo directly states that the main issue is mankind’s propensity for violence and the threat we therefore pose to our neighbours in the galaxy.

This broadly correlates with the conclusions of my “deep dive” article last year summarising Lue Elizondo and David Grusch’s main claims at the time and attempting to extrapolate the implications. It remains to be seen if this is actually a worst-case scenario. However, as stated in his book, Elizondo believes that the bullet-points above explain everything that has reportedly been happening, including the NHI/UAP interest in mankind’s nuclear weapons and overall military capabilities, the alleged abductions, and so on.

Elizondo’s suggestion that the pattern of NHI/UAP behaviour indicates “recon for a potential invasion” is based his own specific professional background. In the interests of taking a broader perspective, it’s also worth considering that Earth may not actually be independent in the first place; the NHIs may be monitoring threats to the stability of galactic territory that they already dominate, so our entire solar system may have already been annexed a very long time ago.

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Original Title: Sean Kirkpatrick departs from consultant role at AARO - "Dr. Kirkpatrick is no longer affiliated with AARO or the Department of Defense”. Sources inform Liberation Times that his successor Dr. Kosloski is showing promising signs of adopting a new approach to the UAP topic.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/tanktoys on 2024-08-28 12:24:25+00:00.


Hello there! I'm from Palermo, Sicily, about 75 miles from Canneto di Caronia, the small town in the district of Messina where mysterious fires spread in 2004, 2005 and during the subsequent years, along with numerous anomalous events: cars that started up without anyone turning on the keys, rabbits that died all of a sudden, meters catching fire from the inside etc… I think you have heard of the case, if you want to see something about it there's this video by The Unexplained Files.

Given the proximity to the place (and – I admit it – the age when these facts happened, I was like 14 years old) those events always fascinated me. As someone who grew up with “The X-Files” and - more recently at the time - “Taken” (2002), that was the chance to have something really weird going on an hour away from my place.

I recently read lots of stuff about Caronia, how the investigation revealed something about an electromagnetic pulse beam as the cause for those fires and anomalous events, but then everything was basically “covered up” with a definitely more mundane explanation (two arsons were declared responsible of the fires) that couldn't explain all the other “high strangeness” phenomenons occurred during the previous years.

When I read the news of the time, where the journalists said that an Interistitutional Group was being formed to scrutinize and understand the nature of the cause behind the phenomenons, I noticed that several sources say that “a NASA researcher” had been selected by the Italian civil protection to be part of the team. This guy is never mentioned in any TV special about Caronia, he's doesn't have a name in any of the news published, looks like an “Invisible” (Tim Taylor, is that you?).

I would like to have some help from you fellow subredditors, to identify this guy and try to understand what a NASA researcher came to do in a tiny, scarcely inhabitated town in the northern coast of Sicily if the fires weren't ignited by something anomalous.

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Suppose a Tic-Tac crashes in a densely populated area, for example, in a random mall in Jakarta or crash lands and wipes out a housing block in Berlin in the process and scores of people filmed the whole thing, and even pulling out biologics?

UAP's are very advanced machines far beyond our understanding of physics and material science, but at the end of the day, they're still machines with a chance of mechanical failure or pilot error.

Which begs the question, what if a UAP crashes in a densely populated area, people are able to document the whole thing, and the military are unable to contain the situation? Will it be a catastrophic disclosure?

This is just a hypothetical question.

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Lue (and all whistle-blowers) get a fair bit of criticism due to not coming forward with evidence.

I understand the reasons why considering legal complications and potential for losing clearances.

But, this appearance felt different. Lue clearly made an effort to bring supporting evidence in the public domain thus circumventing these issues.

What I'm finding frustrating is neither the JRE producers or Lue on his website have posted links to these documents, or provided directions on where to surface them ourselves.

I wanted to start a thread where we try and find each of these documents. If have the means to find any of these please share in this thread.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/microwavable-iPhone on 2024-08-28 11:43:06+00:00.


I recently saw the interview that Lue Elizondo did on NBC. The first question they ask is about remote viewing and I wanted to share a couple declassified documents that can be found on cia.gov.

Star Gate Program

BRIEF HISTORY OF PHENOMENOLOGICAL RESEARCH

In the mid-late 1800's, investigations into anomalous mental phenomena were initiated by a very limited number of researches working essentially independent of one another in various countries. The early investigators were motivated to examine this area due to evidence suggested by a wide variety of anecdotal accounts of spontaneous occurrences. Many of these early investigations focused on case study collection and analysis; some were aimed at phenomena demonstration under controlled conditions and were based on the psychological perspectives of that time-period. Formal research efforts were initiated by leading physicists, and investigation societies were established in 1892 (London) and 1896 (New York).

The major U.S. research efforts on this topic and their time-frame of activity. The most well know early U.S. researcher was Dr. J.B. Rhine at Duke University, Durham, N.C.; he explored proof-of-principle of extra-sensory perception (ESP) by use of simple experimental targets (5 symbols) and well-established statistical methods. His work led to considerable publicity and to a general acceptance that laboratory experiments had in fact reasonably demonstrated the existence of "telepathy, clairvoyance, and psychokinesis". His laboratory eventually moved to a private foundation (Foundation for Research on the Nature of Man (FRNM)), in Durham, N.C.

In the 1960's, new U.S. work began in New York, N.Y., and San Antonio, TX that examined psychological variables and psychological states; this new work incorporated a wide variety of target material in the experimental set-up. Emphasis was on a "free-response" (not forced choice card guessing) approach that examined how well a subject could draw concealed pictorial material. Various psychological conditions (altered states), such as deep relaxation or sleep, were explored and methodologies for evaluating results were developed. A different statistical approach was required, since the target possibilities were no longer from a small fixed set that could be easily evaluated.

Gateway Process

Vice article on Gateway Process "How to Escape the Confines of Time and Space According to the CIA"

If you’re interested I made a post about Stanford Research Institute's research on remote viewing.

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Check out out— as reported in popular mechanics.

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https://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/eisenhower_briefing.pdf

https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/calendar?month=9&day=24&year=3

https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/calendar?month=8&day=1&year=6

Excuse me if this isn't a new finding, I just came across it on UAP Gerb's latest video discussing the Majestic docs with Ryan. S. Wood and consider it very significant and noteworthy. Although I don't know for how long has Truman's appointment calendar been public, becase that would obviously bring the credibility down some bit if it was publicized before the MJ-12 docs came out. Even then it would seem very unusual to go those lengths to fabricate something like this - and for what?

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I wrote an article back in February just to get some thoughts down about the history of the US, Christian fundamentalism, and the issue of the alleged reverse engineering of UAP. I didn't promote it, and didn't really expect it to get any attention. It didn't, and I was planning on leaving it at that.

In Elizondo's new book, however, he mentions the Collins Elite. I had never heard of them until reading this book, but he touches on some of the same issues I'd been researching and thinking about for a while.

I've pulled some bits out of the article to start the conversation, but you can find the rest here.

Hopefully this gives you an idea of how the culture of fundamentalism might permeate US politics as well as the issue of UAP.

TL;DR: the fundamentalist viewpoint has rooted deeply into US governance, and it continues to affect even our attitudes towards ourselves. The issues of energy and political power may be at the center of this mystery and in the hands of fundamentalist Christians, who believe humans are evil by nature and inherently deficient. Their disdain for and lack of faith in humanity is the poison in the well.


If we are afraid of ourselves, we will beg someone to control us.


The roots of American Christian fundamentalism

In Puritan philosophy, the wilderness symbolized all that was evil, including the inner wilderness of humanity. Strict, prescriptive values created a fundamentalist social front that united its members in their judgment. The “live and let live” philosophy that governed [the nearby town of] Merrymount stood in stark contrast to its neighbors.

Contrary to popular belief, the Puritans did not come to America seeking religious freedom for everyone; they came seeking a political environment they could superimpose their own values on, and Merrymount was an impediment for their agenda.

Long story short, the elders of Plymouth hired an assassin to murder the mayor of Merrymount, citing its debauchery and wildness as justification for an act that could, by their own standards, be called a mortal sin.

If you have been influenced by fundamentalist ideas, you might believe that humans are inherently deficient and prone to evil. You might also believe that harsh punishment is the best way to deal with those that have broken the law.

Many of us have been implicitly conditioned to see humanity as lacking in moral strength, and it often allows us to justify cruelty.


The fundamentalist solution to the societal problem of accountability

In Ara Norenzayan’s book, Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict, he suggests an idea: “watched people are nice people”.

As civilizations grew and anonymity replaced accountability as the social standard, previously small, regional gods were transformed into omniscient, punitive gods who had a fierce obsession with justice. It was through this mechanism that society could continue to function, replacing social accountability with eternal cosmic consequences.

It’s a clever solution, but one that requires strict enforcement of the majority worship of a single god.

Both fundamentalism and fascism require unity. Unity of language, unity of belief, unity of action. Anyone who does not comply is branded an enemy.


The influence of fundamentalism in the politics of power

[Gary Nolan] discusses the sighting of an anomalous craft performing maneuvers that seem to defy our understanding of physics; he goes on to speculate about amount of power that would be necessary for those maneuvers.

He suggests that a single acceleration/deceleration would require more energy than the entire nuclear output of the entire planet for a year; and this craft was performing these maneuvers every few seconds.

The generation of energy, especially at such unimaginable levels, is a double-edged sword. Like nuclear energy, anything that creates tremendous amounts of energy may either be used as a source of security or as a weapon of mass destruction...

If technology for the generation of unthinkable amounts of energy were to fall into selfish hands, the world would either be conquered or destroyed. Given this situation, it would make sense that those with access to powerful technologies may want to delay its arrival to the public until the major influences of the world demonstrates more egalitarian tendencies.

That is a valid reason to be afraid, or at the very least extremely cautious.

We have plenty of examples of organizations, companies, governments that operate almost solely for the purpose of concentrating power and influence in the hands of the few, many of which justify their actions with the argument that humanity needs to be controlled and that they are the ones chosen to do it.

Elitist delusions often arise from the misinterpretation of personal narrative. Many people in positions of influence believe that their nature and their effort got them to where they are today, without accounting for luck or any pre-existing advantages they may have had.

Once those people are in positions of power, they are the ones to determine what has merit, which means the values built into the system become stale while our social values continue progressing. That leaves us with people in influential positions that believe the large populations of the country are errant and must be coerced back to their own "traditional" values.

That also means that there will be gatekeepers for everything deemed too dangerous for the "dumb and selfish masses" to know about.


How this affects us in our daily lives

An authoritarian regime with this goal would continue to convince its subjects that they are fundamentally deficient and must be tamed for the good of the nation. They would also convince us that the citizens of competing nations are evil, out of control, and monstrous.

...If that culture is brutal, fear-based, and fueled by profit and punishment, individuals within that society will behave like caged animals. If profit and fear are the sole motive, we will compulsively abuse each other to achieve security and safety.

The ironic thing about Christian fundamentalism is that it always ends up crushing the spirit of even those who believe it's right.

Politicians engage in massive hypocrisies (e.g. grindr at the RNC), which provides evidence to them that humans need to be controlled; they punish themselves (as well as us) while their self-hatred slowly hollows them out from the inside.

Their sharp and unforgiving judgement of others turns facing their own mistakes into a trauma that they'll spend their lives avoiding (until a probable meltdown).

There are people like this in positions of power that are making decisions for us, about what we can know, about what values/ideas are valid, about how the world works.

Their rhetoric will keep us perpetually in the dark.


Anyways, thanks for reading!

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Witnesses to an infamous 2004 UFO incident reveal 'Tic-Tacs' spotted flying at incredible speeds by top Navy pilots off the California coast were also picked up on sonar speeding underwater.

Two Navy officers told DailyMail.com that masses of high-quality radar, sonar and other data of the strange craft were sent to a Naval base on shore – as they accuse the government of a cover up after the Pentagon claimed the data is nowhere to be found.

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Original Title: Operation Saucer: When the Brazilian Government Documented UFOs In the 1970s, in the Colares region of Brazil, a wave of UFO/UAP sightings and interactions occurred, leading to an official government investigation that resulted in some of the best evidence of the phenomenon in the world.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Sky5759 on 2024-08-27 21:57:00+00:00.

Original Title: Captain Hollanda's bedroom encounter with 3 beings which restrained him and spoke to him in a robotic voice. Hollanda was the leader of "Operation saucer" a military program to film the UFOs who were attacking remote villagers in Colares in 1977.

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This is my first post in this group, but I think it's time to share this information.(Sorry Mods asked me to re-post)

Tower Control POV

Tower Control POV (Another Day/the light is the moon) I asked my Friend to take a photo that shows the airport lights with the exact same POV of the sightings next to it.

Date: 05/23/2024

Time: 03:27 AM UTM -3

Location: San Carlos de Bariloche, Patagonia Argentina

I've been living in the south of Patagonia, Argentina, for 4 years now, a unique place on earth, sometimes very similar to Switzerland, other times to Canada, but once you get into it, Patagonia shows itself to be a truly UNIQUE place. It is public knowledge that Argentina has a long history of UFO sightings. There are several places throughout the country where I live that contain incredible stories and anecdotes but that lack credibility due to the lack of technology, exposure or sometimes even cover-up for fear of what others will say.

This video that I'm sharing with you is not mine, but the first time I was told about this event, the first thing that came to my mind was "don't believe in these things" for that very reason, I waited patiently for other sources or people to comment on it. And with no effort, that same thing happened. A friend of mine who works in the control tower at the local airport shared with me a video that he personally recorded during a night shift. As we all know, airports never sleep, and especially those that have a large number of flights, night or day.

This place where you can see the lights is about 25 km from the airport, a completely "virgin" place because my city is located in a national park and it is one of the largest parks in the country.

I leave you the video so that everyone can draw their own conclusions. I am really looking forward to taking a trip to that location, but it is really in the middle of nowhere, between mountains and valleys. In addition to containing a high degree of danger because Pumas and other dangerous species live there.

Although I don't have the funds to invest in an expedition with a friend, I am more than open to suggestions from anyone and I am happy to offer them privately to those who want to know the coordinates of the place without any problem.

You will tell me what is happening next.

Just added this New screenshots showing the posible Location and the exact cardinal position.

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