this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
531 points (96.7% liked)

linuxmemes

21428 readers
676 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  •  

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't fork-bomb your computer.

    founded 1 year ago
    MODERATORS
     
    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Btw. when we get wayland forwarding over Network?

    [–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    waypipe exists, but it's still not perfect.

    [–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

    Never heard about this. Thx.

    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

    Neither was X11 so it's in good company

    [–] db2@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Btw. when we get wayland ~~forwarding over Network~~?

    /c/foundthenvidiauser

    [–] d_k_bo@feddit.org 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Unlike X11, Wayland was never intended to be network transparent. As others say, solutions like waypipe and more tradionally RDP and VNC exist.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly. We won’t. We’ll get specialized video stream over network. I’m not happy about this regression. I understand that was a willing sacrifice to achieve better local performance, but I’m not sure it was worth it.

    [–] MinFapper@startrek.website 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Their reasoning was that X11 network transparency had been broken for quite some time. If you tried running chrome, most games, or anything with modern hardware acceleration over X11 forwarding, they wouldn't work.

    So, IMHO waypipe is actually an improvement in terms of compatibility, rather than a regression.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

    You always had the option to send frames over the net using VNC and such. But for many use cases, X over SSH was absolutely fantastic.

    I remember using it on a very basic DSL connection to work remotely back in 2005, and it was almost like running local. You don’t get anywhere near the same performance with VNC or RDP.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    It’s more about security if I recall correctly

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    How so? Is there a way for malicious code to start injecting itself into calls to 127.0.0.1?

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Sorry, I am not an expert myself, but I think there are some recourses about that in the internet

    Or, this file on x.org:

    “But the X protocol is still unsecure by design…”

    https://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2014/XDC2014DodierPeresSecurity/xorg-talk.pdf

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, to send it naked over the wire would be nuts, which is why everybody uses SSH. But unless there’s insecurity within the computer, that’s a moot point.