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Israeli diaspora minister says Lebanon, Syria and Iraq are not a real countries. (www.haaretz.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by heartbreaker@lemmy.world to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

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[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Not really onion-y.

Lebanon literally has a foreign paramilitary group with considerabily political power controlling part of it's territory, so they are arguable not a fully sovereign state. And in the end statehood is not a clear definied concept and what really matter is recognition from other states. A state not recognition another for poltical reasons is not really something strange or absurd. That's pretty much the norm.

[–] heartbreaker@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It is not the norm, it is becoming the norm. Nothing to shrug about, it is quite dystopian.
And how is Hezbollah not a local military? As far as I know, they have existed before the Iranian revolution.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It is not the norm, it is becoming the norm.

How so? This was much more common in the past. It's become much less of the norm since we have international instituations like the UN.

Nothing to shrug about, it is quite distopian.

right, but this isn't !aboringdystopia@lemmy.world. And I don't think it's onion-y.

And how is Hezbollah not a local military? As far as I know, they have existed before the Iranian revolution.

They are funded by and acting in the interest of Iran. But it wouldn't really change anything if they were local. It still means the government is only partially in control of the country.

[–] heartbreaker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How so? This was much more common in the past. It’s become much less of the norm since we have international instituations like the UN.

So it's not the norm, it is becoming the norm. you answered it yourself.

right, but this isn’t !aboringdystopia@lemmy.world. And I don’t think it’s onion-y.

My comment is not the post, the post is onion-y

They are funded by and acting in the interest of Iran. But it wouldn’t really change anything if they were local. It still means the government is only partially in control of the country.

This makes no sense.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Can't belive i had to scroll to the bottom to find this.

Nothing he said is actually wrong, just missed that recognition is also a big part of it.