The issue lies with what downvotes really mean. We've all seen instances on Reddit where where downvoted to hell because it was an idea contrary to the majority of the sub/echo chamber even though they were totally valid.

[–] maplealmond@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would very much like a world where upvotes and downvotes are not symmetric. As is we say total is upvotes minus downvotes, but in reality upvotes exist to say "good job" and downvotes should exist to say "this is spam or unnecessary"

A better system, IMO, would be to make downvoting closer to reporting, a little harder to do, but if the ratio of down to up passes a certain threshold, the comment is then flagged for review and/or just massively downgraded.

Oh, and you cannot do that to something you reply to. Either say "this is trash not worth engaging with" and move on, thus ensuring trolls do not get fed, or reply but acknowledge it was worth engagement.

[–] Shinhoshi@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

I think that’s the kind of idea being debated at https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/ right now

[–] s900mhz@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I like where you are going with that thought. I would like to see tags users can vote on like “spam, bot, hate, troll” or something. So the users can moderate themselves a bit. These tags can then be reviewed by a moderator who can make the ultimately decide what happens. Of course this is still prone to bridging and bullying but just trying to think outside the box

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly it was kinda foolish for Reddit to ever think it was going to be otherwise. People are inherently tribal by nature.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's always distressing to see, but if it keeps happening it's also evidence that community isn't worth the time to visit.

[–] wr4th4@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

basically every thread i was apart of.

[–] lackthought@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

I don't really care about the lack of downvotes but the reason I didn't join beehaw was because users are not allowed to create new communities there, you have to ask the admins for permission

not that I wanted to spam a bunch of stupid communities but I prefer a more organic approach to growth than constant applications to get anything done
reminds me of intentionally obtuse government functions where everything has to go through committee before approval

I do respect their intentions though wanting a more curated experience, just not for me at this time

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I just think its fantastic that instances can try different things and users can (actually, really, for real this time) easily vote with their feet.