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[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So Geoffrey Hinton is a total dork.

Hopefully, [this Nobel Prize] will make me more credible when I say these things really do understand what they're saying. [There] is a whole school of linguistics that comes from Chomsky that thinks it's nonsense to say these things understand language. That school is wrong. Neural nets are much better at processing language than anything produced by the Chomsky school of linguistics.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Neural nets are much better at processing language than anything produced by the Chomsky school of linguistics.

Hey mate, did you get your PhD or a fucking Nobel in linguistics by any chance? No? Just talking about shit you apparently have no idea about?

I didn't even know you could be a crank about linguistics, that's pretty amazing. What other otherwise really boring fields are you going to tackle, geodesy?

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

there's plenty of linguistics cranks, but most of them have nationalistic tint, like people thinking that all languages come from turkish or something like that

[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 23 points 1 month ago

Everybody knows that all languages derive from ULTRAFRENCH.

[–] acausal_masochist@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You give me a word, any word, and I show you how the root of that word is Greek.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 16 points 1 month ago
[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope that was a typo for Proto-Indo-European

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 20 points 1 month ago

PIE was just people wanting to eventually speak Greek but they had yet to figure out how, so they were just working backwards little by little trying to make their language more like Greek.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

like people thinking that all languages come from turkish

This is amazing, I fucking love this. People striving to create the lowest stakes possible conspiracy. I struggle to think of something that would have less impact on the world no matter it were true or false.

A shadowy cabal of powerful people guarding the secret of "actually, it was [rolls die] Turkish people who invented [rolls another die] language!"

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

then think again, because it was a part of continuing series: turkish nationalism

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay sure, but this is comical. A Turkish nationalist will be a Turkish nationalist with or without this idea. It's the equivalent of saying that Turkish people have naturally less odorous farts and thus TURKIYE SHALL RULE THE WORLD!

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

okay but this idea was kinda central to modern turkish nationalism. see, kurds are not distinct people, they just speak turkish but wrong (heard anything similar recently?) also this is part of the reason why standard turkish is actual common language in turkey

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

oh, it's like russia's idea of ukrainian and belarussian. fucking orphans of the empires…

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

Funny you say that, as it was the Dutch who invented dice.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 21 points 1 month ago

Hey mate, did you get your PhD or a fucking Nobel in linguistics by any chance?

Early onset Nobel disease.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for him to chime in about music theory.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A popular meme on social media makes a series of allegations about the musical tune pitch A=432Hz and A=440Hz, including that the latter was a standard imposed by the Nazis to manipulate their enemies.

spittake

Multiple experts told Reuters these allegations are unfounded.

NO WAY

Thanks Reuters.

[–] self@awful.systems 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

since 1953 all music has been tuned to 440Hz. This frequency has NO SCIENTIFIC RELATIONSHIP with our universe and actually causes the brain to become agitated.

fuck yes, this is the random all-caps crankery I get out of bed for! I love the idea that 440hz agitates the brain, but not in a scientific way (at least not for our universe?)

[–] self@awful.systems 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

since 1969 all computers have been running Unix. This operating system has NO SCIENTIFIC RELATIONSHIP with our universe and actually causes the brain to become agitated.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago

This operating system has NO SCIENTIFIC RELATIONSHIP with our universe and actually causes the brain to become agitated.

This but about Windows and unironically.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like my music the way I like my CPUs, 432 Hz.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] cstross@wandering.shop 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@froztbyte @techtakes

Here, have a Macintosh Centris/Performa 610!

That button on the right? It's not a floppy eject button, much to the chagrin of hordes of students during the 1990s, but an on/off power button ...

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

hahaha that's a wonderfully cursed design placement

(yes I looked up a photo quickly)

[–] misterbngo@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This reminds me of when I was planning out a tubular bells project. there is an amount of crankery around various notes and I came across a series of videos about the various Cs and their use in healing or chakra alignment.

When i went to buy some tuning forks I noted some more weird mysticism, but hey at least they produced a nice set of C notes.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago

seconds after 440hz tone is sounded:

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it's an old one, with roots in 80s era right wing cult/crank organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiller_Institute

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 27 points 1 month ago

efficient move, getting the Nobel disease in before the Nobel itself