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There are few things quite as emblematic of late stage capitalism than the concept of "planned obsolescence".

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Chromebooks are unfortunately meant to be disposable like phones. Nobody should buy one, but unfortunately schools get them because they're cheap.

On an individual basis you can install Linux, but for millions of devices thrown out by schools around the world, there's no solution because the residual value is so tiny, you'd have to pay the techs minimum wage and hold a gun to their heads to get enough devices per hour to justify it.

I used to work at a refurb place and when we saw a chromebook that wasn't immediately OK (it could've had a bad display or keyboard, or locked to an account), we just removed the eMMC, smashed the chip and threw the device on our scrap pallet.

[–] Sina@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Give them to the kids with a QR code guide sticker about installing Linux on them? I'm not a kid, but I would love if someone "threw" a couple of these in my general direction.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost certainly not allowed, schools are responsible for privacy and security on these devices.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any standard desktop linux is more private and secure than google spyware

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And as soon as the IT guy at school installs Linux on these machines, he's responsible for said privacy and security. And he's a lot easier to sue than Google if something goes wrong.

[–] Hellebert@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is exactly why right here, cost aside.

I would not hand out hundreds of Chromebooks to kids running some Linux distro I installed even if I could. It's critical to have full manufacturer support in these types of environments.

[–] Hephoh2@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Yes but there might already be personal data on them from the child, so they cannot give the chromebooks out before wiping them, which seems hard to do so they just bin em.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of these Chromebooks are 3-4 years old and in really rough shape. Kids use these things for literally everything. You likely wouldn't even want them for free. Probably bio-waste at this point.

[–] Squidious@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

A friend asked me to fix their daughter's desktop and also asked if she could borrow an old laptop to use in the meantime. The desktop was disgusting with food smeared all over the keys and display. I cleaned it up and fixed it and sent it back. My laptop was returned with food smeared everywhere after just a few days. I was stunned.

[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Phones shouldn't be disposable either, I'm coming up on five years on mine.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They shouldn't be, but they're designed to be, especially Androids with their abysmal software support period.

[–] BellaDonna@mujico.org 1 points 1 year ago

I guess mine is unusual then. I still get very regular security updates, and battery life though noticeably shorter, well, it's still okay.

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there something preventing the use of ansible or similar, to handle the installs?

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Ansible probably doesn't change UEFI settings or switch off the hardware lock that some Chromebooks have for installing a new OS.

You have to remember that these things cost like 200 USD new and they're utterly underpowered. By the time they stop getting updates, they have so little residual value, it's literally not worth salvaging them.