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The atmosphere is so heated, and the statements are getting more and more extreme. Let's just assume Harris wins the election. After a campaign like this, how could you ever have a normal relationship with your pro-Trump neighbor/father-in-law/Uncle/Barber or what ever again?

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

We've expected that for over a generation. It's more than just the boomers doing this. If you're waiting for Gen X, you're going to have to wait for Millennials too, because we thought the same thing.

It wasn't boomers that were influenced by r/the_donald and 4chan.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn’t it most Gen-Z men are Trump supporters now?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Whoa, where did you hear that?

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Of course it’s more than just the boomers. But once those two generations are dead and gone, they take their lack of empathy and their unfettered narcissism with them.

And I know a few boomers who got plenty of their bullshit from those sites because those sites were just a circlejerk of Fox News lies.

I’m not saying younger generations won’t also have a collection of morons as well, but those generations grew up with this nonsense and they will forever remember the kind of country and world that was left to them.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

And who will they blame? Probably others.

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you've got an admirably optimistic outlook. I hope you're correct. However, I am afraid that you may be underestimating human greed and selfishness. Those aren't unique traits to any generation. Maybe it's human nature, maybe it's learned through existence in a capitalistic / hierarchically organized society. In any case, I am not confident that youth alone will prevent people from seeing the kind of country and world that was left to them, as you put it, and not desire to possess as much of the remnants as possible in an outburst of self-interest.

For every person that sees the ice caps melting and wants to fix it somehow, I'm afraid there's almost certainly at least one other person who thinks, "Hell yeah, new oceanfront property just dropped, how can I own/sell it?"

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m optimistic in the future generations, yes. And you’re right, at any given moment, there’s a bell curve that can describe the way people are for an event or a trend or an age. I suppose I see the younger generations as moving the curve along an axis toward a better world.

I may very well turn out to be wrong. But I’ll be dead by then.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was the generation we were hopeful for. All we've done is stall. We got Obama elected... and that's about it.

We need a plan that's better than "wait it out". That one tends to fail.

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I didn’t preclude continuing to take action. I voted for Harris and will continue to vote for the most sane candidate in each election, primary and general. Same for down ballot.

Never once said the plan was to wait it out. I simply said the insanity perpetrated by the previous generations looks to be on borrowed time — an obvious assertion probably, but an assertion nonetheless.

Maybe my intent is cleared up now.