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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I could go over Wolfram's discussion of biological pattern formation, gravity, etc., etc., and give plenty of references to people who've had these ideas earlier. They have also had them better, in that they have been serious enough to work out their consequences, grasp their strengths and weaknesses, and refine or in some cases abandon them. That is, they have done science, where Wolfram has merely thought.

Huh, it looks like Wolfram also pioneered rationalism.

Scott Aaronson also turns up later for having written a paper that refutes a specific Wolfram claim on quantum mechanics, reminding us once again that very smart dumb people are actually a thing.

As a sidenote, if anyone else is finding the plain-text-disguised-as-an-html-document format of this article a tad grating, your browser probably has a reader mode that will make it way more presentable, it's F9 on firefox.

[–] maol@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago

It's always the child prodigies

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

on a side note, I notice this passage in the review:

Wolfram refers incessantly to his "discovery" that simple rules can produce complex results. Now, the word "discovery" here is legitimate, but only in a special sense. When I took pre-calculus in high school, I came up with a method for solving systems of linear equations, independent of my textbook and my teacher: I discovered it. My teacher, more patient than I would be with adolescent arrogance, gently informed me that it was a standard technique, in any book on linear algebra, called "reduction to Jordan normal form", after the man who discovered it in the 1800s. Wolfram discovered simple rules producing complexity in just the same way that I discovered Jordan normal form.

this is certainly mistaken. I think the author or teacher must have meant RREF or something to that effect, not Jordan normal form

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gauss–Jordan elimination, maybe?

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 6 points 3 weeks ago

yah there we go. gauss-jordan to reduce to rref

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The fractal border between reality and bullshit, in a nutshell.

Wolfram refers incessantly to his “discovery” that simple rules can produce complex results.

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 3 weeks ago

I knew Wolfram was a massive asshole, but I didn’t know or forgot that Mathematica was based on appropriated publicly-owned work:

In the mid-1980s, Wolfram had a position at the University of Illinois-Urbana's Beckman Institute for complex systems. While there, he and collaborators developed the program Mathematica, a system for doing mathematics, particularly algebraic transformations and finding exact-form solutions, similar to a number of other products (Maple, Matlab, Macsyma, etc.), which began to appear around the same time. Mathematica was good at finding exact solutions, and also pretty good at graphics. Wolfram quit Illinois, took the program private, and entered into complicated lawsuits with both his former employee and his co-authors (all since settled).

and on that note, Symbolics did effectively the same thing with Macsyma (and a ton of other public software on top of that, all to drive sales of their proprietary Lisp machines), but a modernized direct descendent of the last publicly-owned version of Macsyma named Maxima is available and should run wherever Common Lisp does. it’s a pretty good replacement for a lot of what Mathematica does, and the underlying language is a lot less batshit too