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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Imagine unironically making this meme. I envy the history students in 2138 who get to study this crap and scratch their heads

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The History students of the Future will watch all those who sat by as complicit in the rise of an authoritarian racist President in the USA

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the anti-genocide people were the ones violently confronting Nazis four years ago while the Democratic mainstream said that wasnt the right way to do things.

Probably lots of overlap with the people who blockaded and flooded airports and courts to stop the Muslim ban.

Probably closely related to the people who put their bodies on the line and blockaded ICE detention facilities.

I'd bet they were involved in organizing the BLM protests too.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, man.

The real Antifa are the ones brunching and quietly judging while they sip their mimosas.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

MLKJ, "Letter from Birmingham Jail"

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

The history is already set. The dems ran a mediocre campaign after the sitting president flubbed a debate and lied about his physical ailments. It was a campaign so out of touch with voters that they lost the entire government.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

How cute to think this is the first authoritarian racist president. You should check out the rest of USA history sometime.

[–] Gluca23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Depend what they will write in history books...

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those 20 million people who sat by were democrats. But sitting by while facism rises is kinda your thing, isn’t it? Too bad you can’t hand-wring your way into a better union, huh?

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, but I can get a better confederacy. Given that I come from the confederatio helvetica and not the united states, you know.

Also I'd like to know how you got to the conclusion that I, vocal and voting against fascism, am complicit in its rise?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Look at this genocide enthusiast. Nah, if the Democrats are going to support Israel unconditionally they deserve to lose. If saving the US means that the US will continue supporting Israel then better if the US is unsaved. I voted for Jill Stein and don’t regret it, but I still regret voting for genocide Joe in 2020.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

God, you liberals are disgusting scum. MLK was right about you, you are the greatest threat to justice.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rather than being sanctimonious why not give some actionable advice.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok, how about this. The way you’ve been doing things? Don’t do that.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Typical, always there to tell people how it should be, completely detached from consequences

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

Yes, that’s typically how democrats are, but this time I think you’re gonna experience them with us. You’ll finally get a taste of that solidarity you’re always going on about from the comfort of your couch. See you on the protest line, comrade.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I’m think you’re missing the point.

You face three choices:

  1. Most death and harm, 50% chance of happening
  2. Less death and harm, 50% chance of happening
  3. Principled choice for no death and harm, but that practically makes choice 1 more likely to happen because it has 0 chance of happening.

Choosing choice 3 is equivalent to choosing choice 1 because you’re contributing to choice 1 happening practically.

Choosing choice 3 is directly creating more death and harm than choosing choice 2 and in that way is morally worse.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Libs would rather make fun of their genocide that they're funding than resist it.

That's literally why nobody votes for y'all creeps.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m think you’re missing the point.

You face three choices:

  1. Most death and harm, 50% chance of happening
  2. Less death and harm, 50% chance of happening
  3. Principled choice for no death and harm, but that practically makes choice 1 more likely to happen because it has 0 chance of happening.

Choosing choice 3 is equivalent to choosing choice 1 because you’re contributing to choice 1 happening practically.

Choosing choice 3 is directly creating more death and harm than choosing choice 2 and in that way is morally worse.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why should we accept genocide as normal? I don’t get it? Is it because it is happening to Arabs?

At least now we know many Democratic voters are just as racist as Republican voters just tacit about it

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m think you’re missing the point.

You face three choices:

  1. Most death and harm, 50% chance of happening
  2. Less death and harm, 50% chance of happening
  3. Principled choice for no death and harm, but that practically makes choice 1 more likely to happen because it has 0 chance of happening.

Choosing choice 3 is equivalent to choosing choice 1 because you’re contributing to choice 1 happening practically.

Choosing choice 3 is directly creating more death and harm than choosing choice 2 and in that way is morally worse.